Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Mica


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The result was keep. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:08, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Alex Mica

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No real indication of notability as defined by WP:MUSBIO or WP:BIO; passing mention in a tabloid article hardly rises to the standards set by those policies.

And if he really did win the award the article claims he won &mdash; well, some fifteen awards are handed out annually at the Romanian Music Awards, and while I can see "best album" meeting the "major music award" standard of WP:MUSBIO point 8, I have a harder time seeing "best new act" in the same category. - Biruitorul Talk 01:40, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reliable refs that I can see. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:54, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - he had a song place on Romania's charts so qualifies per WP:MUSICBIO —Мандичка YO 😜 01:56, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This is an unreferenced claim, however. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: The "contract" he was under was with a company whose name is identical to a vanity music service in the rest of the world. The article says "it peaked on the charts," but what charts? Was this the downloads chart, the sales chart, the radio play chart? The only potentially verifiable fact is in a pudding of promotion and puffery. It gets very hard to trust a vague potential fact when it swims in a sea of undoubted boosterism. Hithladaeus (talk) 12:43, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Can someone fluent in Romanian check and . Looks like they might show notability, cannot find claim they charted in Romania though. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:52, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, the first link, from Adevărul, is certainly reliable, but not especially edifying. It talks about Cătălin Botezatu handing out an award and being distracted by a blonde. And, yes, at the end it does mention in passing that the award in question was given to Mica. As to the second link, I'm a bit skeptical about the reliability of yabbmusic.ro. In any event, the article deals with a certain Eli launching a video clip in which Mica also participates; the only in-depth mention of Mica is a quote by Eli: "I'm a friend of Alex's, we've known each other for a very long time because we're from the same city", etc, etc. Given that Eli himself doesn't seem notable, I don't see this one as a meaningful indication of notability either. - Biruitorul Talk 13:37, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, so they were giving out an award, not receiving one? If they'd been receiving a reward for best act, then keep, but as not, then Delete. Unless of course someone can verify he reached the Romanian charts. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:48, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:40, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:40, 2 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Clearly one of the biggest successes in recent Romanian pop music. The hit "Dalinda" was one of the biggest Romanian hits in 2012. The music video also attracted more than 21 million views, very respectable for a Romanian-language song. I have added many references as well to article since it was nominated for deletion. His most recent hit as a featured artist in Eli's "Nu mai cred in tine" is on the same track and has attracted around 7 milllion views in a brief 2 months. The article can be trimmed off of unnecessary detail, but I don't know what is the interest of English Wikipedia in deleting many such artists who are so notable in their own countries as if they are undeserving of international attention. I know language may be a hurdle for colleagues with no knowledge of languages, but I think non-English language artists are as deserving as English language artists for coverage, although references are much harder to analyze. werldwayd (talk) 08:15, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you actually find reliable sources that they charted in Romania? Because if they did, then they should be kept, but I couldn't find any sources for it. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:19, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * In answer, see a snapshot of the Romanian chart where "Dalinda" is at number 10 on week April 30 – May 6 2012 http://romanianchart.blogspot.ca/2012/05/romanian-chart-40-edition-182012.html The song also charted in Bulgaria peaking at number 13 See: http://top40-charts.com/song.php?sid=33706 werldwayd (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Switch to Keep per above, passes WP:NMUSIC. I added these sources to the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:14, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * werldwayd, if this guy were that prominent as your hyperbolic "clearly one of the biggest successes in recent Romanian pop music" suggests, he'd be the subject of "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician [himself]". He isn't; thus far, all you've been able to adduce is a blog post, a tabloid article and a piece of cruft. So let's tone down the rhetoric a bit: he's (probably) had one mildly successful song, and that's it.
 * Joseph2302, do note the wording of WP:MUSICBIO: passing the criteria indicates the subject may be notable. Strictly speaking, you could argue he is, based on having had one song in the top 20. Myself, I tend to believe a biographical article should have at least some indication of coverage in "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician". Given that such coverage is glaringly lacking, I still question the viability of the article. - Biruitorul Talk 02:04, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

http://newmuz.net/5396-alex-mica-dalinda.html I will translate the text from site (rus):
 * Keep One of the obvious significance tests - known among people in other countries.
 * "And again on the DFM Radio Romania charges! This time, the news hit song musical prodigy, a composer from Romania Alex Mick (Alex Mica). This track is called Dalinda."
 * This is not a significant link, right. The author has to find meaningful. But I am against the removal of the singer, which even I know, despite the fact that nobody heard from Romania. Shad Innet (talk) 10:52, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


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