Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandra Govere


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The result was   no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:28, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Alexandra Govere

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Excepting the Elle Girl and BNET sources, all of the material in this article when I first found it was/is either unsourced, or supported by self-published sources or sources whose content is user-generated. Her one accomplishment in those two acceptable sources, being selected by Disney and McDonald's to be a Disney-UNESCO Millennium Dreamers Ambassador, hardly confers upon her the notability needed to have her own article. In the Elle Girl source, she is mentioned in a tiny blurb along with 23 other people, and in the BNET piece, most of the description of her activities is written autobiographically. A more detailed analysis of the sources that are or were in the article is on that article's talk page. Nightscream (talk) 13:28, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Meets WP:N and to spare. She's been the primary focus of multiple articles in unrelated reliable sources. San Diego Union-Tribune |+She's+predicted+to+change+the+world&pqatl=google, The Chronicle of Philanthropy, The Zimbabwean NewsDay, Brass Magazine, , and The Paly Voice . Besides those, she has been the non-primary focus of articles in the April 2002 Teen People (20 teens who will change the world), Elle Girl, and BNET. And she's a cast member of The Real World: San Diego (2011). While none of those is individually the New York Times, cumulatively, that's quite a lot. --GRuban (talk) 14:18, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The Paly Voice is a high school newspaper. - MrOllie (talk) 18:45, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. And the Real World San Diego is a national US TV program, and the two Zimbabwean papers are two national Zimbabwean papers, and the San Diego Union Tribune is a respected California paper, and BNET is the paper for an important organization, and the other things are what they are too. To quote Sam Spade, " – but that's enough. All those on one side. Maybe some of them are unimportant. I won't argue about that. But look at the number of them." --GRuban (talk) 23:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

 Are you sure Brass magazine is an acceptable source? I relied a lot on that source for the material I put into the article, largely on the basis on the insistence given to sources like that above, but in re-checking my post on that article's talk page, I am reminded that a disclaimer at the top of the page tells visitors, "Interested in becoming a brass contributor? Click Here". Is this an indication that it's like a wiki? Nightscream (talk) 20:24, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure, first I've seen of it, frankly ... No, it's not a wiki, it's a real published mag, just looking for contributors. Some mags do that. Ah, here: Started in 2004, circulation of 500,000. Not the New York Times, but not self-published either. I'd say reliable enough for non-controversial issues. --GRuban (talk) 21:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 02:52, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


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