Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandra Socha (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Alexandra Socha
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Fails WP:Entertainer Drawn Some (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2009 (UTC) 
 * 1) Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, or other productions.
 * 2) Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
 * 3) Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep The article lists 3 roles Socha played and the nominator appears to have made no effort to follow WP:BEFORE. Three roles meet inclusion criteria for entertainers unless one or more can be shown to be minor. The nomination also fails to include WP:GNG in their reasoning which supercedes WP:ENTERTAINER and appears to be met by two of the notes and one external link. - Mgm|(talk) 09:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not enough to have had roles or even significant roles if the production or work is not notable. These efforts to count roles in high school performances and little theatre or local productions to make someone notable for a Wikipedia article is distorting any meaning that the guidelines for notability have.  Sorry to pick on you, I realize that you're not the only one doing this and it may be that you didn't investigate in depth. It is plausible that a 19 year old has had multiple significant roles in notable performances but it just isn't the case with Miss Socha. Drawn Some (talk) 11:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Much as it pains me, I concur with Drawn Some. I'm not seeing anything that satisfies the GNG, or WP:Entertainer. The role in Spring Awakening is significant- the play is notable but there is just not enough of anything else- either information on her or other significant roles to justify a WP article at this time. If more information were to come to light, and I'll do some digging, I would swing t'other way. In the meantime, I'd be inclined to say delete it and recreate it when she has other significant roles to her name. HJMitchell    You rang?  13:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Much as it pains me, I concur with Drawn Some. I'm not seeing anything that satisfies the GNG, or WP:Entertainer. The role in Spring Awakening is significant- the play is notable but there is just not enough of anything else- either information on her or other significant roles to justify a WP article at this time. If more information were to come to light, and I'll do some digging, I would swing t'other way. In the meantime, I'd be inclined to say delete it and recreate it when she has other significant roles to her name. HJMitchell    You rang?  13:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The role in Spring Awakening led to some press coverage, including commentary about her performance in The New York Times and the Daily News. I've added those references and some others over the past few days. There's enough there now to meet the general notability guideline, the basic criteria of WP:BIO. Keep. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 04:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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