Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alfred James


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Alfred James

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Delete. This is not a given name - Alfred is the given name, James is one of the middle names. On WP, we do not keep pages to list everyone with a certain combination of given name and middle name. Please see Frank William's AfD. Boleyn (talk) 06:43, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 16:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Del. There are pairs of names like "John Mark" (the name of the reputed author of the Gospel of Mark), that seem to occur together far more than statstics of the individual names would predict. But apparently random pairs of just of the most popular American male names (which cover 90% of that population) would run over a million articles, and the corresponding ones for American females over 4 million. By the end of WP's 16th year, that may be no big deal, but for now it would be a major change in the nature of the 'pedia's infrastructure, to little effect. --Jerzy•t 07:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 
 * That would sound like a rationale for deleting John Smith. A statistical argument is a misleading one here, and it would also be as incorrect a reason for deleting as crystal balling would be a reason for keeping (and neither of the above posters can legitimately claim WP:CBALL here). The key question is whether or not these people were commonly called "Alfred James" as opposed to only "Alfred" or "Al," and this question has yet to be addressed in this discussion. For the time being, I am neutral as I can see both valid sides of this "argument." B.Wind (talk) 05:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC) Struck last line - see below. B.Wind (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mayalld (talk) 08:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:07, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment, a given name page would be giving information about a given name and a list of some notables with this given name. 'Alfred James' is not a given name, whereas 'Sarah-Louise' is. It is irrelevant whether any of these were known as 'Alfred-James', and none of the articles indicate that they were anyway. Boleyn (talk) 11:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Being that I do not yet see a reason for deletion under WP:DELETE, I default toward keeping. I am not opposed to revisiting this issue in, say, six months, if there is nothing indicating a solution to the "key question" that I posed earlier. Unfortunately, MOS:DAB precludes citation on a dab page, but there is nothing precluding the continuation of this discussion on the dab page's talk page. B.Wind (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.