Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alfred Julien


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. czar 15:29, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Alfred Julien

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Google News turns up only one or two passing mentions, and a flat-out Google search turns up a NYT obituary and really nothing else except ancestry records. Couldn't find any in-depth discussion in reliable independent published sources, does not qualify as notable per any SSG, does not appear to meet WP:GNG. A loose necktie (talk) 14:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Law,  and New York. Shellwood (talk) 14:43, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The NYT obit (free access here) is a solid GNG-qualifying source, and there's also a 300-word obit in the New York Law Journal, Jan. 9, 1989—unfortunately it's behind the LexisNexis paywall, but I'd be happy to email a copy to anyone who'd like one. Furthermore, it appears that Julien is discussed at considerable length in this book: although I haven't been able to find a copy myself, the reviews indicate that he's one of just five people profiled in it. I'll see if I can find any more sources in the morning, but regardless I think there's enough here to satisfy the GNG. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:29, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Another point: there are a fair number of reviews of Julien on Summation (here and here) and Opening Statements (here, here, and pg. 647 and following here), so the possibility of a WP:NAUTHOR pass is also worth considering. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. There is long precedent to keep articles on individuals with obituaries in major newspapers. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Added citations, information and an award section, to support keeping the page. Additionally, he is quoted and cited by his peers.  This lawyer was called the "best trial lawyer in New York" in a mock trial against Melvin Belli at a renowned law school, by a fellow lawyer who wrote about it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by FalconMillenium (talk • contribs) 02:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)


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