Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alfred Nourney


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The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 15:36, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Alfred Nourney

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Does not meet GNG; very little coverage beyond being a Titanic survivor. –dlthewave ☎ 03:28, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:19, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:19, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete I cant see anything in the article that shows he is noteworthy enough for a stand-alone article. MilborneOne (talk) 14:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 06:08, 28 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 18:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. Rather wide coverage of how he upgraded his second class ticket to first and, by impersonated a baron (Baron von Drachstedt). Icewhiz (talk) 09:39, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge into Passengers of the RMS Titanic. Can't see anything beyond very brief coverage of the same couple facts. Seems like a great use of the article to cover such a story without necessitating a stand-alone article. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 05:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep In addition to the books mentioned above, he got some coverage in the US for his intention to sue for the loss of his clothes! One article, in The Tennessean, seems to see through him, and rather makes fun of him - it's called 'A Sartorial Tragedy', and starts "One of the real sufferers by the Titanic tragedy .... Alfred is mourning with a grief that refuses to be assuaged the loss of his entire wardrobe". It gives the amount he claimed it was worth, and lists the items (ending "and ever so much more"!). Another, in The Brooklyn Daily Eagle, takes him rather more seriously, states that he was "an aeroplanist and driver of racing automobiles", and lists the whole inventory of his clothes, all with individual prices! He sounds like a remarkable con artist, and it's hard to believe that he did no more in Germany than become a salesman, car racer, member of a tennis club, marry and have two children. I would say keep, and add the info about his plan to sue for loss of his clothes. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, because there's enough material to make the article interesting and I can imagine it being used in research. Deb (talk) 12:58, 12 December 2018 (UTC)


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