Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alfredo Tjiurimo Hengari: Namibian Political Scientist


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The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 04:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Alfredo Tjiurimo Hengari: Namibian Political Scientist

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nn bio, does not meet WP:ACADEMIC. PRODded, removed by me because of a protest on the talkpage (demonstrating that the deletion is controversial), but I support deletion. gnfnrf (talk) 00:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are a lot of newspaper articles by him and some responses to those articles. I added two references which quote him as an authority. See also this Google Scholar search. -- Eastmain (talk) 03:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Are we looking at the same search? I only see one result, in German, whose relevance I cannot verify. gnfnrf (talk) 03:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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 * Comment. I am not sure yet about biographic notability under WP:BIO, but the subject is not notable under WP:ACADEMIC. There is almost nothing in the googlescholar search cited by Eastmain and according to the article's text the subject is currently studying for a PhD. He may well be notable under WP:BIO, based on these googlenews results (71 hits in googlenews), but I'd have to look at them closer. Nsk92 (talk) 03:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. He is not a notable scholar. When this was proded I spent at least two hours trying to dig out references to decide whether to prod-2 or not. My decision not to prod-2 but not to deprod reflects my indecision! For me, the crucial point was if he could be verified as a former special advisor to the Namibian PM as this would make him notable. I could only find a couple of references to this, both of which were letters to the editors in newspapers which, although the newspaper was a reliable source, a letter to the editor isn't necessarily. An example reference is here: . His work as a journalist on The Namibian means his writing is widely available but isn't enough on its own to make him meet WP:BIO IMO.  Unusual? Quite  TalkQu  09:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Week keep, per Unusual? Quite. Enough newscoverage of him for passing WP:BIO. It is probably a good idea to move the title to simply Alfredo Tjiurimo Hengari. Nsk92 (talk) 13:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. As pointed out by Unusual? Quite, he does not qualify as notable based on WP:PROF. He is on his way toward qualifying under WP:BIO, but right now he does not yet have enough coverage in the media that is independent from him. He is a news reporter himself, not someone that other news reporters have talked about extensively. He seems to be switching to becoming the latter, but is not there yet, IMO.--Eric Yurken (talk) 22:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete not notable as an academic; but "chief of staff in the Office of the Prime minister." if documented, would quite possibly be notable. DGG (talk) 02:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


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