Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Čair


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Prilep. (non-admin closure) SST flyer 05:40, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Ali Čair

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It is just too short to be included in Wikipedia. I didn't CSD it for no context as you can identify the subject. Sports Devotee (talk) 09:58, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep on the basis that "Too short to be included" is not a valid reason. See WP:AFDISNTCLEANUP ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 14:27, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Macedonia-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Prilep perhaps as Delete only if perhaps needed, certainly not currently acceptable anyway though. SwisterTwister   talk  05:11, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Additional search: Mz7 (talk) 03:28, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Prilep – While "too short" is, indeed, not a valid reason to delete an article, I searched for a good amount of time using both "Ali Čair" and "Али Чаир" and couldn't find much potential for this to be expanded. The relevant notability guideline here is WP:GEOLAND, which already sets a pretty low bar for notability: you only need to show legal recognition of a populated place. However, neither the terms "Ali Čair" nor "Али Чаир" appear on the 2002 Macedonian census. The Macedonian-language Wikipedia has an article at mk:Али Чаир (археолошки локалитет), but it appears to deal with an archaeological site in the Prilep area and has only one reference to an offline map. A few of the sources I found through a general web search seem to deal with that rather than the suburb. A machine translation of this source seems to call it a neighborhood, rather than a suburb, as does this source. A Google Books search for "Али Чаир" holds some promise: I found this book titled Prilep and Prilep throughout history which appears to have a section dedicated to Али Чаир. Ultimately, however, without evidence of legal recognition, this alone isn't enough to demonstrate standalone notability. The two sources I mentioned earlier that called it a neighborhood seem to associate it with Prilep, so absent an indication that this is notable and can be expanded, I have to say redirect. Are there any Macedonian-language speakers that can help? Mz7 (talk) 04:15, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 07:27, 5 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 22:17, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge or redirect - there's not much there in there. Bearian (talk) 19:43, 16 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Merge - We should perhaps merge it with Prilep and make a new section of neighborhoods and disricts, so then Prilep get's upgraded to B Class, who agrees? I am also a Serbian speaker, I petrol these pages, some of my relatives live around Prilep Audi1merc2 (Talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 08:20, 18 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.