Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Jita


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is a clear absence of consensus after multiple relistings. Although there appears to be some issue with the ability to reach articles provided as sources, Wikipedia does not require that all sources be available online. BD2412 T 02:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Ali Jita

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Promo looking article for a non notable musician falling short of WP:MUSICBIO and general notability guidelines as subject of article lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources falls short of WP:GNG, WP:BASIC & WP:ANYBIO. Celestina007 (talk) 16:17, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete. The subject fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. The article contains a number of hoaxes. I removed the awards section from the article because the whole thing is false.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 17:47, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Consider the additional refrence I provide Hello, I'm working to create the article, I did'nt finish with refrences provision, unfortunately, before I came back I found that the article was tag for deletion, I add addutional refrences to award list, I do hope you will consider my contribution when you take a look at the refrences carefully. Anasskoko (talk) 18:42, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:58, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The subject passes WP:NACTOR and atleast meets WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG, I don't see the article looking promotional, although the article may looks shabby, but the references provided are reliable sources as I can see many from BBC Hausa service, Daily Trust, The Kannywood excetera. He's quiet notable as the subjects' works are in non-English settings, a reason in depth sources from English media may be lacking. The Living love 14:06, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Which criterion of NACTOR and WP:MUSICBIO does the subject meet? Can you please answer this question. Simply saying he meets these requirements doesn't hold any weight. I went through all of the article's 14 references and only two of them (refs 2 and 5) actually contain text about Ali Jita; all of the remaining references are unreliable.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 00:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:02, 3 February 2020 (UTC) OK !, here is my thought regarding what the subject has met per WP:NACTOR, has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. ,,. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following. , ,,,. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. ,, ,. I stand to be corrected. The Living love 13:27, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Refs 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11 and 12 do not work; they all say "Page not found". Refs 3 and 8 are the same exact reference. According to the source, he released his debut studio album Jita in 2009. A Google search of Jita doesn't show it meeting the requirements of WP:NALBUM. He has starred in movies such as Gimbiya Bakandamiya, Kishi, Murmushin Alkawari Zaman Aure and Garin Gimba. A Google search of these films do not bring up reviews in reliable sources. Ali Jita might be known in Kannywood but he isn't notable and doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. If he was as big as Ali Nuhu, I'm sure his notability wouldn't be in question.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 10:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Last relist before No Consensus close

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  N0nsensical.system (err0r?)(.log) 09:27, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Well, first of all let me start by saying those URL links that are provided by The Living love is not provided correctly, because the URL's are not retreived, that is the reason behind the unavailability of the pages in the respective sites. but nevertherless, all the links he provided are those in the main article which he is reffering to. for example the first link he provide is this https://­www.dailytrust.com.ng­/­ali-jita-holds-concer­t-launches-war-again­st-cancer.html instead of this https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/kannywood-ali-jita-holds-concert-launches-albums-in-abuja.html ,so you can see the differences, I do hope you are getting my point behind the threats.
 * Secondly, Let me prove that he stand a chance to have a page in Wikipedia as a singer and songwriter, you misunderstoodd the article or Ali jita in general, you said " He has starred in movies such as Gimbiya Bakandamiya, Kishi, Murmushin Alkawari Zaman Aure and Garin Gimba. A Google search of these films do not bring up reviews in reliable sources. Ali Jita might be known in Kannywood but he isn't notable and doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. If he was as big as Ali Nuhu, I'm sure his notability wouldn't be in question" you are correct, but who told you he is an actor? did I? or you seen it written in the article? I was saying he is a singer and songwritter from the article under Music and film career, I even said " Most of Ali Jita's songs where used in the Kannywood film industry, but some of his Albums were sold out to other Hausa film Industries, His associates include Nazifi Asnanic, Fati Niger, Naziru M Ahmad......" check this so he was not an actor, but he is a singer and songwritter. So dont divert him to filmography, He is in line with Hausa Northern Nigerian Singers.  His song was ranked Number 2 according to a report by BBC hausa in 2018. So here he is in line. so prove he is not worth as musician,singer and songwritter?
 * Thirdly, You said " A Google search of Jita doesn't show it meeting the requirements of WP:NALBUM" well, on this I disagree with you, what makes you said so? all those fourteen reference I provided are all in Google serch, Unfortunately, you said they are not reliable sources only two are reliable BBC Hausa and Dailytrust, According to the rules provided under WP:BAND, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:SINGER Under Number one, it is stated that 1-Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself so mark that word sources that are reliable. BBC Hausa and Dailytrust are sources and are reliable, If you said they are only two, then two is plural not singular. the rest are also reliable to me and Wikipeia, since they have been retreived, so give me a reason? are they include in blacklisted websites in Wikipedia just like [Nairaland.com], or you just decide on your own, also search for Ali jita in [Bing.com] is another searching engines, I serch Ali jita there and I found more than 10 pages, each page has atleast 5 sites were Jita was discussed. So, I have the right to say he meet the requirements. If you experience difficulties in reaching Bing.com using data, use the free mode 0.freebasics.com, it will connect quickly. make the reserch and tell me how many websites you see.
 * Fourthly, Ali jita also launched two albums all titled Love is an Audio album with about 12 songs and a video album with seven songs in Federal capital terrotory Abuja. filmmakers, musicians and politician attend the launcing. part of them are The performing actors include Sani Musa Danja, Aminu Ladan Abubakar, Kogi-born musician Fenah and Abdul S. The event was also attended by Wife of Kebbi state governor, Hajiya Zainab Bagudu, wife of Bauchi state governor, Hajiya Aisha Muhammad Abubakar, wife of Kogi state governor, Mrs Rashida Bello and wife of Kaduna state governor, Hajiya Aisha Ummi el-Rufa’i. Other important prominant people included, a wife of former Kano state Governor, Halima Ibrahim Shekarau, and former Director of Army Public Relations (DAPR), Brig-General Sani Usman Kukasheka, Alhaji Abdullahi Shu’aibu Maje and a businessman, Alhaji Alhassan Fatuhu – who bought the two copies of albums – one video and an audio at the sum of N2 million. Also, Filmmakers including actors, Adam A Zango, Yakubu Muhammad, Sadiq Sani Sadiq, Hadiza Aliyu, director, Aminu Saira and musicians, Naziru M Ahmad and Nazifi Asnanic. Other prominant included President Muhammadu Buhari’s National Director of Music, Alhaji Dauda Kahutu (Rarara), actor, Bello Muhammadu Bello (BMB), comedian, Baban Chinedu and Executive Director, Kano state Censor Board, Alhaji Isma’il Afakallah. Check this link and read it carefully and understand it, to see what i'm saying is right, to avoid argument, If Ali jita is not notable then why will all such politicians, actors, actresses and musucian attend his albulm launching? my point here is, if such prominent people will attend his launching, they most have known Ali jita as a Musician, not a local one.
 * Fifthly, Ali jita with other musician also visit the current president of nigeria to have a dialogue with him because of their support by singing campaign songs to him, a picture is provided in the website where Jita was potrayed next to the president by left, here is the link if Jita is not a notable musician, then how can he be close to the president as a musician?

Lastly, I will like to conclude with futher refrences apart fom those ones in the main article, Ali jita had been discussed in many website, not pass by, but as the main subject of the matter, you made mention that there is no significant coverage about him, check this Also check this link, Ali jita have an interview, he was asked about kannywood film industry, the reason why they are not kissing here is what he said as a musician and film producer in Kannywood industry, Futhermore, According to WP:MUSICBIO Number 5, it is stated that 5-Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).check this URL and see his album through his songs. He was also in independent record label, where you can buy Ali jita's song online and Another link were his music can be download, [] Versace, The living love made mention of something earlier, he said Ali jita was not in english settings, I know you are from Nigeria you might understand the most speaking language of Nigeria Hausa, I'm sorry to say this link is written in Hausa, where Jita was said to be a superstar, check it out He even organise sallah celabration, click and see  Do you want to see his songs? click on this Ali jita was also said to be a kannywood superstar, check this link. He was also called hausa winning singer and a songwritter  According to WP:Musicbio 5-Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.So check this Link four links https://hausa.naijanews.com/2019/12/09/kannywood-ali-jita-ya-lashe-kyautan-mafi-kwarewar-mawaki-a-shekarar-2019/ http://www.citypeopleonline.com/nominations-list-for-arewa-musicians-for-city-people-music-awards/ http://www.invictafm.ng/city-people-award-2018-invicta-fm-didam-make-nomination-list/ https://procyonnews.com/2018-city-people-music-awards-arewa-nomination-list/ With all due respect check the refrences. Anasskoko (talk) 14:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. The rationale provided by clearly demonstrates that this subject meets the guidelines. KartikeyaS343 (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2020 (UTC)


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