Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Mandalawi


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The result was   delete.  Wifione  Message 07:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Ali Mandalawi

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This subject fails both WP:BASIC (no substantial coverage by independent reliable sources actually about the subject except his own interviews) and WP:CREATIVE, as his works appear only in private collections, none of which are themselves notable, and none of which are permanent or approach any other factor of the alternative criterion. Not surprisingly, this article is a family project by someone who, as best I can tell, is a family member of the subject. The most reliable coverage, that of the LA Times, is about cartoonists, but this subject's place in it is scant, and he is not the actual topic of discussion (he talks about being a cartoonist, just like the several others in the story — cartoons are the actual topic). The WP:LOTSOFSOURCES in previous versions contained trivial mention, and some were even associated with the subject. JFHJr (㊟) 23:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete - not sufficiently notable.--Staberinde (talk) 11:15, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J04n(talk page) 11:24, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LlamaAl (talk) 00:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. IronKnuckle (talk) 06:55, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Have anyone checked the Arabic/Farsi sources to determine the consensus for AFD? I'm surprised this isn't mention, and that may make him meet WP:GNG. Secret account 20:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've checked Arabic sources; my Arabic reading (that is fuṣḥa 'l-3aṣr) isn't that of a native, but I can indeed read, and generally better sourcing didn't jump out at me. FWIW, the Arabic Wikipedia article was written by the same family member as this one, and isn't sourced to anything better: insubstantial coverage in reliable sources (example, example) and deeper coverage in completely unreliable sources such as self-publications and things the subject has been involved in (example, example). The best coverage I could find was this, which is a perfect example of mid-grade human interest journalism (Firas Hajjaj isn't well-known in this field) that should never underpin notability alone. Otherwise, things that Mandalawi wrote (example) do not indicate their own importance and must be discounted without third party coverage. Finally, I'm not sure why Farsi would be relevant, and I didn't get any noticeable Farsi results. Cheers. JFHJr (㊟) 21:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - seem to be enough plentiful notable results for علي المندلاوي, such as article on him I just added article at external links. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * That link is to an article on Mandalawi by Mandalawi... Hard to see how this adds to his own notability. JFHJr (㊟) 03:51, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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