Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Shama


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:40, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Ali Shama

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Promotional biography of an apparently non-notable artist who doesn't seem to have notability for his work as a school principal either. Drmies (talk) 21:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - there is media coverage on him, but even according to his bio, its just that one mention. SalHamton (talk) 01:09, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. There is significant coverage in the New York Times. There is incidental coverage at http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-20/news/30540157_1_stephen-tsai-arnie-rosenbaum-francis-lewis. There is coverage at Columbia University for being selected to the Cahn Fellows Program at Teacher's College, Columbia. That is an award, and being from Columbia, looks prestigious. There is some coverage here (it is not clear if the source is an RS, but it is clearly not a blog or promotional in nature; has editorial oversight). There is a passing mention in NY Times. and a bit here. The coverage is largely about his being a school principal. The NY Times and Columbia coverage are both significant. The rest can't be called trivial since the context is the school of which he is the principal. Coverage is sufficient to meet WP:BASIC (non-trivial in multiple reliable, third-party, independent sources). Churn and change (talk) 05:01, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:18, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:18, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 17:17, 28 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. I don't find a lot of sourcing about his art, but I think there's enough depth of coverage for his work as an educator to pass WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:23, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
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