Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Tajdary


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  23:51, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Ali Tajdary

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Subject fails
 * (1) WP:NMMA for not having at least 3 fights under top tier promotion.
 * (2) WP:SINGER - had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
 * (3) WP:NACTOR where that significant roles in multiple notable films where by the subject is cover in lenght in dept by independent reliable sources about the the films he was featured in.
 * (4) WP:GNG for not having significant coverage by indepndent, reliable sources (IRS) where by the sources talk about the subject in length and in dept. and not merely passing mentioned. (note:interview /IT tune/marketing articles are considered on indepdent.
 * So far from the sources in the article there are either not do not meet GNG requirements stated above. Since the subject is from Iran and it is a little difficult for me to find sources or to check if there are IRS other editors could find, pls provide, but at this stage subject doesnt meet any notability requirements.  Cassiopeia  talk  23:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin - creator is a sock and admitted to commit WP:Meatpuppetry - see here 1 and SPI report here. Cassiopeia   talk  22:26, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm really sorry for the people who applied for dismissal, because they applied for dismissal without the slightest search. They did not even pay attention to the acting profession of this person. Doesn't it matter if his film won an award in Russia? Isn't the person who won the Best Actor award at the Iranian Film Festival credible? Doesn't anyone who has a biography in a national newspaper matter? All sources are the most authoritative Iranian sources, and unfortunately the people who suggested here have no knowledge or information about Wikipedia and the validity of the links. links 1:manzoom.ir The first link is the database of Iranian artists.
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  Cassiopeia   talk  23:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Cassiopeia   talk  23:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  Cassiopeia   talk  23:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions.  Cassiopeia</b>   talk  23:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Iranian references doesn't meet WP:NWSRC. In fact, resources are very weak. AriaTess (talk) 10:57, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - This article does not speak for itself and does not establish any of general notability, musical notability, or martial arts notability. This article has been reference-bombed with low-quality sources. I have not reviewed the references and have no intention of reviewing all of the references. If the originator wants a review of the sources, they may list not fewer than three nor more than five key references. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * While I agree with you heartily (see my comment bellow), I think the more sources the better. However, as the case here, all of the sources besides source #9, are not reliable.--Filmomusico (talk) 01:29, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Source #9 is the only one that bares some form of notability, but we can't base it on a single source.--Filmomusico (talk) 16:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete and I'm tempted to A9 Start (studio album) when this is closed. Giraffer (talk·contribs) 14:42, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Me too.--Filmomusico (talk) 01:31, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * KeepUser:Hosein kandovan

2: shoroonline.ir The second link is the national and state newspaper of Iran.

3: sarshenasan.com the third link of the authoritative news platform is the work of well-known artists and has been used as a source in hundreds of Wikipedia articles.

4: sarshenasan.com the fourth link of the authoritative news platform is the work of well-known artists and has been used as a source in hundreds of Wikipedia articles.

5: rahetaraghi.ir The fifth link is a news site with twenty years of experience that publishes the most important political news, sports art

6: daramadnews.com The sixth link is the news agency and under the supervision of the Iranian government

7: ecoperaian.ir The seventh link of the Economic and Artistic News Agency is a subset of Hamshahri Iran newspaper

8: sarshenasan.com the eighth link is a newsletter for Iranian artists and celebrities, which also produces more than 100 Iranian films and has a print magazine.

9: mehrnews.com The ninth link of Mehr News Agency is one of the top five news agencies in Iran. This news agency is under the direct supervision of the government and has more than two hundred news sites under the agency.

10: shoroonewspaper It is the tenth link of the Iranian state newspaper

13: The 13th link of the Iranian News Agency is one of the top five Iranian news agencies

14, 15, 16, 17, 18 These four links are the largest and most reputable sites for distributing works of artists in Iran and the world

20, 21 these two links are one of the most reputable second-rate newspaper and magazine in the Iranian ministry of culture and guidance. 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 these six links are also reputable iranian news agencies that have been used as a reference in thousands of wikipedia articles. with a short search in these news agencies, you can find out their credibility.

This article is too authoritative, but the people who commented here did not explicitly do the slightest research. A cursory Google search reveals the importance of this article. Are any of you Iranians? Are you aware of the validity of my links due to the deletion of the data? Do you expect a link from the New York Times to be sent to you? Do not forget that I wrote an article about an Iranian person and my links are the most reputable news agencies in Iran.

I ask the top and top managers of Wikipedia to judge this article according to the two professions (Ali Tajdary) acting and singing, which iranian artist has such links in the English Wikipedia, according to the rules of Wikipedia, if an actor it is valid to have an acting award, now how insignificant is the person who has won awards in two films and has acted in seven Iranian tv films and played a series that has twenty-five million tv viewers. Hoseinkandovan (talk) --Hoseinkandovan (talk) 10:52, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Hosein kandovan

Hoseinkandovan

It's really funny that some people here are not credible sources, it' s really funny that you do not consider a nationwide newspaper or five reputable news agencies, I'm sorry that people here have commented that they do not have the slightest information and still can not even Distinguish between valid and invalid, --Hoseinkandovan (talk) 10:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC) ←

Hoseinkandovan

In my opinion, this is a conspiracy to delete an article that does not even need to be defended, certainly the main editors of Wikipedia will make the right decision by paying more attention to all the points and links and the subject.--Hoseinkandovan (talk) 11:04, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per reasons above. 121.185.35.240 (talk) 11:20, 7 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: per above, fails several notability guidelines. this person has acted in seven main films number of films acted in does not matter, acting in multiple films does not make someone notable. the singer has two authentic music albums with wide publishers having albums released does not equal notability, lots of youtube musicians/singers I listen to have released albums, none of them are notable. Lavalizard101 (talk) 13:18, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Lavalizard101 You are completely wrong because he was the first role in the humiliation of a valid film, he was the first role in a series that all Iranians have seen, I am an Iranian, I know better than you which Iranian film is valid and which is not valid, (Special Love Line Series), in which Tajdari has been the main actor, is one of the top five series in Iran that almost most Iranians have seen. The movie (fourth round) is one of the most prestigious movies in Iran and has won many awards. And Tajdari has been the actor of that prestigious film, he has also played the lead role in a film called (the butter fly) and he has won the acting award as the leading actor. You have to pay attention to the rules, the rules of Wikipedia say that the actor who won the award is valid, the rules of Wikipedia say that the actor who has played a significant role in several prestigious films is valid, you can not comment on the rules of Wikipedia.--Mehrab fatemi iran (talk) 13:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Lavalizard101] An actor can be famous even with an important film, your words are irrelevant and show that you do not have enough information, many actors in the world have become famous with only one film, in any case, the films in which (Ali Tajdari) has been an actor. It is a popular Iranian film. The Holy Defense Festival in Iran is one of the strictest film festivals and only one person can win it every year. Tajdari has won the Best Actor Award in that film.--[[User:Mehrab fatemi iran|Mehrab fatemi iran (talk) 13:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC) (blocked sock)


 * You have to pay attention to the rules, the rules of Wikipedia say that the actor who won the award is valid, the rules of Wikipedia say that the actor who has played a significant role in several prestigious films is valid, you can not comment on the rules of Wikipedia I have been here for several years I know the rules, the above could like a personal attack, the article fails WP:GNG. You also keep using the word "valid" that means nothing to Wikipedia its notability that matters. Lavalizard101 (talk) 13:58, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

*Keep The article is important and valuable. WP:NACTOR The article is important. In terms of acting, he has played the lead role in eight films. He has two acting awards. The movies and series she has acted in are also important. In two films, he won the Best Actor Award. He has played a role in a series as the main character and singer of the title track. TV series are important. WP:SINGER The singer has concerts in Iranian cities. He has two authentic music albums and her music has been used as the title track of the series.

Searching Wikipedia has several names in movies, series and albums.

Links are valid. Links are not quotes from this singer and are written by a news reporter. So they are considered valid news. There are two national newspapers and a print magazine in the links. These links are valid from Wikipedia.

The article is valid and valuable in every way--A.T wikinevis (talk) 19:56, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

User:Hosein kandovan You wrote that there may have been a collusion to delete this article. Sometimes this happens on Wikipedia. But do not worry, the final review is done by senior Wikipedia administrators. They read the article more carefully. In my opinion, the removal of the proposals is a bit suspicious, but there is no need to worry. Leave the review to the managers and they will make the right decision--A.T wikinevis (talk) 20:06, 7 November 2021 (UTC) (blocked sock)


 * Delete per nom (my original comment was removed by the page creator who is now blocked). <b style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:110%;color:#E285FF"> ♡RAFAEL♡</b>(<b style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color#FF00FF">talk</b>) 04:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of opening a sock investigation myself, as I see that the guy just floods Wikipedia with non-notable Iranian films and albums. I understand the urge, maybe it's ok to post such links in the Iranian Wikipedia but it's a no-no here.--Filmomusico (talk) 06:04, 8 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - First I want to say that User:Hosein kandovan messaged me to vote on this page, because of another vote I had done on a similar Persian page. However, I guarantee you that my vote is independent and this is how I personally feel. I had originally seen this discussion and was going to post KEEP, but decided to pass because there were already too many DELETE votes. However, seeing that there is at least one other person that thinks the page should be kept, I am placing my vote now. I agree that the subject of the article meets WP:ENT because of his acting career, winning an award and being in award winning movie. You have to also realize that a Persian actor is not going to have much coverage in reliable English publications. In addition, he is also a host to a TV series with worldwide coverage. NOTE TO ADMINS: I added the vote 'Keep' to User:Hosein kandovan's post. I don't think he is aware how to properly vote. If he has been caught for socking, I agree that all the votes from the sock accounts should be removed, but you should at min keep one vote from him and read his arguments. Chelokabob (talk) 09:48, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The votes from someone currently blocked for socking within this very AfD are likely to be discarded or weighted minimally. Also, maybe I'm misunderstanding, but how would you have voted here independently if you were asked by Hoseinkandovan when you wouldn't have otherwise voted (considering you decided not to vote before)? Thanks, Giraffer (talk·contribs) 22:16, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I initially voted KEEP on the same guy's TV show page Uncensored_With_Ali_Tajdary. I was going to also vote KEEP here, but then I saw many Deletes and decided not to. But then the said user sent a message to my talk page, asking if I could also vote here. I told him it was pointless because there were many delete votes, but if he could find good in-depth articles to let me know or post about it. I then noticed that he posted here some good arguments, which I had not seen, including the fact that the subject has won awards and been in award winning movies, so I decided for sure the page deserves my vote now and maybe it is possible to convince admins to keep the page. Do you still want to keep your vote as Delete, after reading my reasoning? I feel the subject meets WP:ENT. Chelokabob (talk) 22:58, 8 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Well for one shoroonewspaper yielded nothing in the Google search engine. sarshenasan.com is an Iranian blog site as I see by the url itself, rahetaraghi.ir is rather reliable. This, along with mehrnews.com and shoroonline.ir makes the person to be semi-notable. The only question remains is whether rahetaraghi.ir and shoroonline.ir are daily newspapers or not, because if they are, it doesn't make him notable. Akharin News Agency and Daramad News Agency are a bit sketchy. They seem reliable but at the same time I fail to find the journalist himself. In fact, all Iranian news sites don't carry a single journalist, that is why the whole discussion was in limbo.--Filmomusico (talk) 17:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Please realize that most Persian journalists and writers are afraid to use their names online, for fear of the Iranian Government arresting them for something that they may say that the government does not like. This would not mean that the publications are unreliable. Even, some of the publications that are operating outside the country hide their owner's identities, because the Iranian government has been known to even go after them outside the country. There is currently a journalist in hiding that the government tried to kidnap, but failed and more info. Chelokabob (talk) 18:31, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

* Keep  Hi, the sources are valid. The newspaper is the beginning of a print newspaper. Go to the newspaper site. There are printed copies.There are at least ten official Iranian news outlets in the links. Mehr news agency. sarshenasan news agensy daramad news shoroonewspaper secret news agensy rahetaraghi news rokna news agensy barkhat news matlabak news ecopersian agensy These are the main Iranian news outlets. Please pay more attention. Each of us can make a suggestion to delete or keep this article,But according to all the points, one should comment so that the personal right is not lost.The article is entitled to be registered on the wiki due to the subject and links. WP:SINGER WP:NACTOR WP:ENT — Preceding unsigned comment added by A.T wikinevis (talk • contribs) 20:24, 8 November 2021 (UTC) (blocked sock)
 * A.T wikinevis : You cannot place 2 KEEP votes. But you can post it as COMMENT. Chelokabob (talk) 20:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom.--Alireza Khabib (talk) 03:00, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


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