Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aliaa Magda Elmahdy (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 10:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Aliaa Magda Elmahdy
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 * 1) after 8 years, the article clearly become (WP:BLP1E), after 2012 she totally became inactive and nothing new, no social or political impact, no further effects or awards or honors, nobody remember her nor media coverage, she just a person who posted a nude picture in her blogger page and it sparked some controversy in Egypt in that period and nothing then.
 * 2) she is not compared with Mohamed Bouazizi because what she do leads to nothing, nothing change and nobody mention her, she also failed to make any attention to woman cause, sexism, sexual harassment as article said, I'm from Egypt and working in online media and confirm that.
 * 3) the article actually exaggerate her role or works because she isn't a real activist, The April 6 Youth Movement issued a statement denying claims that Elmahdy is a member of the group, she doesn't make any notable works or add anything in women rights and before 2011 she was unknown person, she grabbed many attention because she publish a full nude picture only, and the middle east is so conservative and that thing make a huge controversy.
 * 4) the threats from ISIL is doubtable because she claims that only to the press, no evidences nor a statement from ISIL nor police investigations.
 * 5) the article also is (WP:COAT and WP:MASK) because it was stuffed a lot of famous names or events to make it a big deal, (for Example: she protested against the "sharia-dictatorial" proposed Egyptian Constitution, drafted by Mohamed Morsi's government), I and many friends protested against it, is that important? or make us a famous people?

note 1: you can find a lot of sources and links about her in google, interviews with CNN and others, but we talk about (People notable for only one event) without (WP:IMPACT), I know the first nomination in 21 November 2011 was (Keep) but it's 8 years and many things are changed and she didn't became a symbol or make any impacts or notable works, we should reconsider it note 2: this person has 20 article in Wikipedia in many languages, but that make her a high notable person because many users translated the article when she was under spotlight. Ibrahim.ID ✪ 10:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)


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 * Keep Notable activist. WP:BLP1E is no longer applicable when the subject has been covered for her multiple acts of activism over several years in the last decade, due to the sustained coverage it passes WP:GNG also. See these newspapers from all around the world 2011 NYT 2012 2013  2014   2017 2019 .Cedix (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * if you read these articles you will find they talk about the same thing (her nude photo in 2011), second: most these links from low profile websites and opinion articles and don't specially talk about her, they talk about many persons and mention her because her photo, third: a (Notable activist)?! what exactly did she do and what are her achievements? posting a single nude picture and become viral? if she a notable activist why none make her a speaker in any event or honored her or put in fame lists (like Asmaa Mahfouz)? make a film or a book about her? like Loung Ung, if anyone become viral for one thing and people talk about what it for long time. is that make him an notable person? so why we use WP:BLP1E rule? --Ibrahim.ID ✪ 22:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * BTW: the link in 2014 talks about ISIL threats and I talked about this point (#4) --Ibrahim.ID ✪ 22:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Reason, whether same event continued for longer time or not event remains unique being first one in Egypt. Whenever next nude protest will happen in Egypt this event will naturally be taken note of. So, logically speaking, at the most one can think of change of page title to 'nude protest in Egypt' When the next one takes place just one can add new event and then title can be made plural to 'protests'.


 * Fresh Comment: Even Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia talk page arz:نقاش:علياء_المهدى too does not seem to have any deletion request, only request on that talk page is to censor external link to the photograph. I search her Arabic words name "علياء المهدى" on google news the seems being discussed at least for criticism or analysis.

Bookku (talk) 09:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, there were enough coverage in the past. Wikisaurus (talk) 19:27, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


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