Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alice Barnham


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep (and God grant us more editors like AnonEMouse). --Sam Blanning(talk) 23:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Alice Barnham
Notability not established. Mais oui! 07:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * After rewrite: weak keep. Pretty borderline (for example I really did struggle to think of appropriate categories for her), but perhaps notable for being a significant, wealthy, female landowner at a time when this was unusual. She was also perhaps a notable public figure of that period due to court cases and scandal. --Mais oui! 17:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. keep Arbusto 10:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Francis Bacon. J I P  | Talk 10:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge per JIP. PJM 12:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete NN, not even mentioned in Francis Bacon, possible in-joke. Mystache 13:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * comment A quick google finds a website that claims to have indepth details on Alice Barnham [www.sirbacon.org/ResearchMaterial/Barnham.htm]. It also claims Bacon was Shakespeare, so I trust it about as far as I could comfortably throw the Isle of Wight. Average Earthman 20:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, everybody knows Oxford was Shakespeare. Sheesh ;-) Fan1967 01:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete article itself admits non-notability. --Ajdz 05:31, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. First, she's authentic. ThePeerage.com shows her pedigree and marriage, Bartleby and the Encyclopedia Britannica mention her. Second, there's been a book written about her: Title: Life of Alice Barnham (1592-1650), Wife of Sir Francis Bacon. Author: Bunten, A[lice] Chambers. Publication Information: London: Page and Thomas, 1919. Since it's a 1919 book, you don't expect many Google hits, but it's also not self-published stuff. I'm not sure if the sirbacon.org link is to a copy of the book (it's been over 70 years, it may be in public domain), or what. She's not the most notable person, but she is the semi-notable wife of an extremely notable person, daughter and wife of two other peers (she remarried), and the subject of a historical book. I think that meets notability criteria. Not by a lot, mind, but enough. - AnonEMouse 20:05, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Here, something must have bitten me, and I completely rewrote the article, expanding it quite a lot. I guess I was inspired by WP:HEY. The article used to be two sentences, now it's two pages, including many cross-references and a picture. Please take a new look and say that this one is worth keeping. AnonEMouse 16:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Excellent rewrite with well documented references - bravo/a. One thing - the footnote after 'homosexual' does nothing for me, though it might be that I have my browser set funny. Eldereft 16:53, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No, that was my mistake, I didn't really understand how to use that. It should be better now. Thanks. AnonEMouse 17:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.