Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alice Goodwin (3rd nomination)


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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Alice Goodwin
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nN model. fails GNG Spartaz Humbug! 00:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. A [google news search] returns quite a few hits, not just in fan mags like caughtoffside, but in sources from around the world, such as El Intransigente (Argentina), The Daily Mail (UK), Fotospor (Turkey), Wirtualna Polska (Poland), Sidomi News (Indonesia), Terra Brasil (Brazil), El Comercio (Peru), and ProSport (Romania). There were quite a few more. Her article still gets almost 400 hits per day.  Onel 5969  TT me 04:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * is this seriously your idea of an RS? You need to explain what the specific sources are and how they meet the GNG. Don't even start me on the Daily Mail... Spartaz Humbug! 05:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Here are some. How many would you like? While I may not like the content of the articles, this is a model who’s famous for her looks and her body.  Articles about her are pretty much going to be about those two things. And yes, I do think that El Intransigente is an RS, I may think the article is fluff and gratuitous, but that does not make the source unreliable. It has a long history as first a printed paper, and now as an online newspaper.
 * Gazzetta in Greece appears to be an RS.
 * Fotospor is one of the largest sports papers in Turkey.
 * While Wirtualna Polska is a portal and has aspects which don’t meet RS, WP Sports, does have editorial oversight.
 * The Sidomi News, while not a major paper, is still a news source with editorial oversight.
 * El Comercio in Peru is one of the oldest Spanish language newspapers in the world.
 * El Norte de Castilla is one of Spain’s oldest daily newspapers and is considered “one of the most reliable and influential periodical in Castile”.
 * ProSport is the second largest sports paper in Romania.
 * El Gráfico is an Argentine sports magazine, and certainly RS.
 * La Gazzetta dello Sport is an Italian sports magazine, another RS.
 * Perú21, one of the leading newspapers of Peru.


 * Some sources like Todaysport in Italy, e-consulta in Mexico, and Diario Deportivo Record (although this one gets thousands of hits on Spanish Wikipedia) I couldn’t ascertain whether or not it met RS standards.


 * These all appear to be about the same young woman. Yes, researching was tedious due to the commonality of her name, (I think I went through the first 7 pages of the news search), but there appear to be many others as well (Tribunnews.com in Indonesia as an example). Again, how many articles in RS sources are required?  Onel 5969  TT me 14:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - Much of the "but hits on google!" argument is debunked when one finds that the hits are to other Alice Goodwins entirely, or are in the context of "Jermaine Pennant and wife Alice Goodwin...". Notability is not inherited. Tarc (talk) 12:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Well I found this but other than that most are just mentions and or of totally different people!, Fails  GNG. – Davey 2010 Talk 13:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Even if her photo has been heavily syndicated, I do not think it makes her notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the coverage comes anywhere near what we want coverage to be. As noted many of the google news hits are either to someone else, or show up mearely as captions on photos in articles about her husband.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:35, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Flimsy clickbait coverage falls below the calibre of coverage needed to satisfy GNG/BLP requirements. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 10:15, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


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