Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alice Norsworthy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:15, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Alice Norsworthy

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PROD removed with absolutely no explanations despite my saying there's no inherited notability for CFO and there's essentially nothing else convincing. SwisterTwister  talk  17:29, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete / Speedy Delete This reads like something that we'd expect to find on her company's website. As mentioned, nothing notable about being a CFO in and of itself if it were re-written, and right now the WP:PROMO language is 100% of this article. Personally I feel G11 & A7 CSD covers it. RegistryKey(RegEdit) 20:04, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:47, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:47, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

 First of all, this request for deletion seems to be made by someone who has no expertise or knowledge of the business sector being discussed and Norsworthy's contributions to that industry.
 * Comment – I have moved the following text below (within the box) here from the talk page for this discussion, because it's unlikely to be seen there. North America1000 04:54, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Alice Norsworthy is one of the top 100 officers in the world's largest media and entertainment company. She has changed the competitive landscape in the theme park industry. In an article linked to her profile, she is given credit as one of the key architects for significantly changing the multi-billion theme park markets in central Florida. Her recognition as one of the most highly influential female industry executives in a major economic sector is documented on the page. This guy's objection to the entry is she is "just a CMO," which is contradicted by the facts on the page.

Here is the link to a search from this proposed deletion page just for Alice Norsworthy and news. It lists 42 separate entries: Alice Norsworthy News

Is this objector is using uninformed judgment to declare all the other content presented on Alice Norsworthy is unimportant. This is just the judgment of some anonymous individual who does not possess the background, skills, or knowledge to make such an assessment.
 * Enough please, see WP:NPA, you are making several serious accusations without even knowing the context and depth that is Wikipedia. The fact you only have contributed to this one article and are getting defensive about it, speaks for itself. Sinply being "influential" and a " major person in business" is not enough claims by itself for notability. We need actual substance including to suggest her own independent notability (there's no inherited notability from any companies or people). SwisterTwister   talk  18:49, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * okay, how is an article such as this so much more "notable?" I disagree that there are any personal attacks included, by the way, but I am trying to focus on the issue at hand: Bill Gurley  Seriously, one is on an investor's list, and Ms Norsworthy is on multiple independent travel organization's list of influential individuals.  Does a person have to be in a particular career?  Obviously, the person doesn't need to be a household name.  The distinction is far from clear.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JL789 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 11 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Here is another example of a person with notable contributions to an industry that appears to be about the same as Ms Norsworthy's contributions to travel. These are all over Wiki: Max Strang  Here is a person (Lainie Frasier) who has had less exposure in national media than Ms Norsworthy, who has been on national TV three times as a judge on NBC's The Apprentice.  What makes these individuals more "notable?"


 * I'll write one more thing and then you can decide on your own, if you are the one who decides these matters. Ms Norsworthy influences travel policy at the national government level, in the largest theme park market in the world (central Florida), and within her company (obviously).  It appears your focus is just on the last role within her company and diminishes the contributions she continues to make to shape a very large industry, including her notoriety as a female role model in a male-dominated environment.  Independent sources document this in her article's references and external links.  Read them if you would like to see more.  She is absolutely "notable" in this realm.  Is that broad enough to be included?  I guess this process decides such matters, but as a writer to this I assert the article certainly qualifies when compared to numerous other such notable people already included in Wii.


 * Comment – : Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people are located at WP:BASIC and WP:GNG. What is needed is proof of notability per Wikipedia's standards. Has the subject received significant coverage in independent, reliable sources? North America1000 05:00, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete she is a non-notable businesswoman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I am of the opinion that Wikipedia has an overabundance of articles on unnotable businesspeople, and they basically all need to be deleted. However the process of sorting them out is difficult, and time consuming, so we delete the ones that get nominated, and encourage those who feel other articles are also on unnotable people to nominate them for deletion as well.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:57, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete She's mentioned in the news if you look on HighBeam, but there aren't any articles with independent RS covering her non-trivially that I've found on the web or databases. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)


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