Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alice Peck Day Hospital


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 00:36, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Alice Peck Day Hospital

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Couldn't establish that this meets WP:NOTABILITY. Boleyn (talk) 16:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Hampshire-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Vermont-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Oppose deletion - Well, Googling news articles on the hospital brings up a link to the Manchester newspaper 90 miles away that the hospital's president was retiring, so it's not merely of Lebanon interest. I know that notability-establishers don't encourage comparing with other articles, but consider that no other New Hampshire hospital has had its article rejected for non-notability. The one thing I can think of that would make this article unneeded would be if it merged with Dartmouth–Hitchcock Medical Center, a possibility that is mentioned on APD's website. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:25, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 06:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC)




 * Comment There's a very large number of hospital stubs per state. It isn't clear to me what value these have in Wikipedia. If no one is moving them from stub to full article status, they will just fester here forever. If the purpose is to create a directory of hospitals, then WP isn't the place for that. However, if one votes delete on this one, then in a sense the entire group of articles should be reviewed and given the same judgment. Is it possible to make categorical deletion decisions for stubs? LaMona (talk) 16:13, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * User:LaMona, my understanding is that hospitals need to each be judged on their individual merits, whether they meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG. They have a Wikiproject (WP:WikiProject Hospitals). However, a review of those within this category could be suggested at WP:Wikiproject Notability (which is swamped with a more than six year backlog and not many interested editors) or could be reviewed by an individual. Boleyn (talk) 16:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * User talk:Boleyn Yes, agreed that they would have to be looked at. I found the List_of_hospitals_in_the_United_States, and I think this could be the "culprit" - under each state the hospitals listed are linked as WP articles (mostly non-existent). (see: List_of_hospitals_in_Massachusetts) This encourages the creation of pages for them if one wants to add any further information. Some states have a list with addresses, others are just WP links. Handling these individually, such as the one we are discussing here, isn't going to have an effect on what I see as the overall issue. It does seem that for the US, various government sites, e.g. Healthcare.gov, have hospital lists. So I begin to wonder what need this list is serving, since the key information (location, contact, availability) is often not included. (It would also be hard to keep it up to date, I presume.) -- Also, I looked at WP:Wikiproject Notability and it seems to have a large overlap with WP:AfD, as this latter generally addresses notability. Maybe that's why it isn't active -- the work is being done here. LaMona (talk) 19:10, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The equivalent list with red links that is relevant here would be List_of_hospitals_in_New_Hampshire. The value of such lists seems to me to be mostly in their wiki-links, and as such, deleting articles like this would significantly defeat the point of such lists. Cooljeanius (talk) (contribs) 13:02, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Besides the reasons for keeping stated above, I would also like to add that the recent changes to the American health care system, including those that were part of Obamacare, have elevated the importance of even small hospitals (like this one) in American life. Specifically, here in New Hampshire, we had this issue of some insurance providers only having "narrow networks" with select hospitals for their plans that they were going to offer on the exchanges, and I'm pretty the newspapers here must have at some point listed all the hospitals in New Hampshire (including this one) to show one way or the other whether they were part of these networks (can't find the link right now though)... Cooljeanius (talk) (contribs) 13:18, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 00:46, 21 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.