Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alien Earth


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. One two three... 07:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Alien Earth

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The primary purpose of this article seems to be to promote "Deviantart user Cebius", which is also the Wiki name of the page's creator. Irbisgreif (talk) 22:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - possibly speedy as spam? Artw (talk) 22:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've de-spamified the article. What remains is pretty poor though. Artw (talk) 22:51, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the article up to a good standard. Notability is shown below. Anarchangel (talk) 09:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. The promospam could be dealt with through editing, but I'm not convinced this game is notable enough for an entry. Hairhorn (talk) 22:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * keep. I was a little hasty with this article, so i did'nt thought about some thing when i was writing this article. Please don't delete it, since this IS my first article afterall, this mistake will not be repeated again. I promise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cebius (talk • contribs) 23:31, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A search for 'Alien Earth Beam software' on Yahoo gave, on the first page alone, these sources: Moby Games, Gamespy, IGN, Answers, UVlist, and Gamestats The final of 10 hits in 10 entries on the first search page (which shows quite a potential for sources) is the Gamespy bio of developer Beam software, aka Krome Studios Melbourne, which shows that they also created 1993's Shadowrun (SNES), the first of the four games based on the Shadowrun PnP roleplaying game. The reviews show that it was released in 1998, within a year of Fallout, has a similar 'weathered portable computer' game interface, and the same branching dialogue. As the Shadowrun SNES article shows, they were one of the earliest companies to feature interactive dialogue choices, and their dialogue system for the SNES game is a forerunner of the dialogue acquisition system used in Morrowind. I forgive Cebius for having spammed his name all over it, but only because it was an unforgivable omission to have left it out of WP (and even left off the Krome Studios Melbourne article...which he also spammed. Sigh.), and therefore his save of this piece of history makes up for it. On the other hand, the spam is gone, and the article is still here. Do you really want to mess up a happy ending? Anarchangel (talk) 04:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The game review incarnations of Gamespy and IGN and Moby games did not exist when this game was released. Gamespy and Moby games were established in 1999; IGN, in 2002. Full reviews of a game that is no longer available when the reviewers first begin their website is treatment that only the most popular of games can hope to receive; it is significant that Alien Earth is mentioned at all. Look at the reviews for the other Beam games linked on the Gamespy Beam software chronology, including the cult classic Shadowrun (SNES); from Gamespy, that's all the review any game going to get, in any case. "I think that's pretty good coverage for a disintegrated pile of rubble" - Ford Prefect, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
 * Anarchangel (talk) 20:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * keep - article significantly improved. Artw (talk) 16:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Krome Studios Melbourne. I looked over the sourcing, and while it verifies the game's existence, only one of the reviews even comes close to significant in size (the one from The Computer Show), and that appears to be a self-published source, failing WP:RS. Gnews and Gscholar produced nothing, from which I conclude that the title fails WP:N. Ray  Talk 19:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No significant coverage in third party reliable sources. A search for this mostly gets back results that are not this game.  Triplestop  x3  00:30, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - the links provided above to Moby Games, etc. are all directory entries with boilerplate descriptions likely pulled from press kits. They are not significant coverage such as a game review or article abouot its development.  I was unable to find any such sources but I can be persuaded to keep if anybody can find this coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 19:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.