Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alien language

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. -- AllyUnion (talk) 04:22, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Alien language
Out of context, original-researchy. -- Curps 06:41, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC) This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
 * Delete, imaginary subject. Gazpacho 08:18, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, speedily if possible, as patent nonsense. --Angr 14:00, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC) Keep now that the article has been rewritten to shift focus onto science fiction. --Angr 16:22, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Josh Cherry 20:03, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I could see a place for an article about the nature and role of alien languages in science fiction, but this is not that. Seeing as how extraterrestrial linguistics is presently no more than speculation, and even at that there's not much speculation we can do since we have no idea if aliens even exist much less any clue how they might communicate with each other differently from terrestrial beings, it would be impossible to write a factual and verifiable encyclopedia article on the subject. &mdash; &#1051;&#1080;&#1074;&#1072;&#1081; | &#x263a; 01:55, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Has been re-done, worth sparing now. &mdash; &#1051;&#1080;&#1074;&#1072;&#1081; | &#x263a; 20:49, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. See new edits.  Bacchiad 15:31, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. There is nothing wrong with having scifi related subjects on wikipedia. -- Old Right 23:24, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Reads fine to me now - lots of interesting hooks into other diverse regions of Wiki - RAO.
 * Keep. It's a little bare so far, but some people's ability to imagine and create full languages is definitely real, and to comment about it is encyclopedic. Plus, Wikipedia is very geek-friendly and computer-friendly. This is genuine and has potential. Just because no other encyclopedia would have this article doesn't prove that the article is bad: it shows that Wikipedia is exceptional. Eje211 23:41, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. There is a perfectly valid reason for including this article from a fiction point of view, as being a subset of fictional language; however, there is also a factual aspect to the topic (eventhough no-one's ever seen any alien languages yet). See . --Gabriel Beecham/Kwekubo 23:53, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Cannot agree that this is patent nonsense, but it is still pretty useless. Delete.  Edeans 05:21, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - There is nothing nonsensical about the article. Its just as worthy as the Fictional language page.  -- Crevaner 20:37, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't really an encyclopedia topic.  What can it say?  "Alien languages are languages spoken by aliens in science fiction stories. Some science fiction authors have constructed languages for the alien characters in their works.  Example. Example. Example."    That, in fact, is the gist of the first part of the article.  The second part of the article is a bit of philosophy of language speculation/original research as to whether we could ever translate an alien language, in case there are real aliens who speak languages.   A lot has been written in philosophy about the issue of translation, but a topic on "Alien Language" isn't where I would expect to find a discussion of this work.   On top of all this, this article just duplicates material that is in Fictional languages and Constructed languages. I don't see any reason why we need another article on this same basic topic.   --BM 18:17, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Existing article is mediocre, but more can be written on this topic without resorting to speculation.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 00:39, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article has considerable potential. How should we communicate with aliens? What strategies have we employed to date in Voyager and SETI? GeorgeStepanek\talk  09:14, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)