Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alinur Velidedeoğlu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. "Delete" has a majority, but the "delete" side merely asserts non-notability and does not discuss the sources provided by Fram.  Sandstein  06:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Alinur Velidedeoğlu

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Unnotable individual, unable to find any primary sources whatsoever. Though not a reason for deletion worth noting he lacks even an article on the Turkish wiki. Serhatserhatserhat (talk) 21:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions.   Bait30   Talk 2 me pls? 21:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions.   Bait30   Talk 2 me pls? 21:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Clearly not notable. Mccapra (talk) 21:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable ad man.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. You are not supposed to look for primary sources, you need to find secondary sources. There are plenty of those in Google News, e.g. this article from 2015 in Hürriyet, major Turkish newspaper, announcing that his wife has asked for a divorce (yes, the man is notable enough in Turkey to get articles about this kind of "human interest" gossip, not only there but also in other newspapers). This is an article from 2007 in the same newspaper about his efforts to get a different view of Turkey in the media than the one shown by Midnght Express. Here we have an article on the man, based on his appearance in the TV show of Ece Vahapoğlu. He is called in that article "the most important advertiser of Turkey". He also creates art, which gets attention in large newspapers like Milliyet. And he produces movies, and again gets attention for this. The movie is The Ottoman Lieutenant. The archive of Milliyet alone has 179 articles which at least mention him, including a number where he is the main focus (12 September 2002, 27 October 1995, 30 September 1998 ...), showing that he is notable and that this isn't a one-off spike in coverage, but sustained coverage over 25 years at least. (The number of 179 may be inflated with adverts, but even so there are clearly many articles about him and many others that mention him). A full biography can be read in this article on ArtTv (I can't verify if this is independent or provided by the subject though). A lengthy interview about his ideas and career appeared in Capital. And so on, and so on... I don't get how the 294 hits at Google News alone match with the AfD nomination here, these would at least warrant some further investigation and a comment here why they are all not acceptable as sources indicating notability. "Unable to find any sources" seems like a very poor WP:BEFORE search. Fram (talk) 08:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:57, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 00:00, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe 22:41, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, Not notable, nobody becomes notable for meeting a celebrity. Alex-h (talk) 07:01, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.