Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alison Miller


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 04:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Alison Miller

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Deprodded page on a mathematics graduate student who won some student awards. Past results from AfDs shows that such student awards are not sufficient for notability, certainly not enough to pass WP:PROF. Most importantly, the page does not (and cannot) point to any contributions or discoveries she made that would warrent an encylopedia article. Abductive (reasoning) 03:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep According to WP:PROF the individual must have won a national or international award, this is clearly stated in the article - "In 2004 she became the first girl to win a gold medal for the United States team in the International Mathematical Olympiad". The article passed WP:PROF. It should be kept.-- CrossTempleJay     talk 09:31, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:PROF explicitly excludes student awards, and this is consistent with how it has been applied in the past.  It does not work as the basis for a keep vote in this case.   Sławomir Biały  (talk) 11:36, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * DeleteCertainly a promising graduate student, but come back in a few years when there are more substantial accomplishments. WP:PROF looks for more distinguished achievements than winning a student competition, which is not the "highly prestigious academic award or honor" required.See the section of WP:PROF which lists the Nobel Prize, the Pulitzer Prize for History, or the MacArthur Award. Note the section which says "Victories in academic student competitions at the high school and university level as well as other awards and honors for academic student achievements (at either high school, undergraduate or graduate level) do not qualify under Criterion 2 and do not count towards partially satisfying Criterion 1." No evidence the person is a major force in the field, with widespread influence, or academic accomplishments at all comparable to being a "Distinguished Professor." Edison (talk) 15:11, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete In addition to the well stated arguments above, the article completely lacks references that establish notability. They're all essentially primary sources. I've searched for secondary news coverage of her, and can find nothing. So, this page needs to go. Vertigo Acid (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, not yet notable enough to be listed in a general reference encyclopedia. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep/merge She is named-checked here, for example, and there seem to be plenty more sources which demonstrate that she has been noticed. Worst case is therefore merger into some list of maths olympians and so, per our editing policy, there is no case for deletion. Colonel Warden (talk) 18:42, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. To merge trivial biographical details to one of our list articles would seem to place far too much emphasis on a single participant.  I don't really see this as a desirable or even realistic option.   Sławomir Biały  (talk) 13:06, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete. We basically have a notability precedent in situations like this one only for multiple wins of the Putnam, e.g. see this and this. The strongest claim here seems to be Miller's gold at IOM, but in the way that event is conducted, there actually is not a single gold, but many. Moreover, Miller seems to be the first American woman to win gold, not the first woman. I think the above assessment is basically correct – this is very far short of our traditional notability threshold for maths people. Respectfully, Agricola44 (talk) 21:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC).
 * Delete. Too early. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC).
 * Keep. Student awards are not relevant for WP:PROF and she's too junior to have attained the impact necessary for WP:PROF, so we have to rely on WP:GNG instead. But I've found and added some sources to the article that I think should be sufficient for GNG: two in-depth articles in Wired and a local newspaper, and a name-check in the New York Times. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:54, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. That Moldavian guy had extensive coverage on his gov't website, which beats Wired if you put things in (national) perspective. She gets written about because "Math is doing great in the USA". Tijfo098 (talk) 09:48, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
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