Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alison Weir


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The result was delete.  Singu larity  06:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Alison Weir

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Weir is a political activist who apparently created her own page, which she apparently edits, mostly citing herself on her own importance.

She did make it into actual newspapers twice. Once when she gave a talk at UC Berkeley and cliamed that she had gotten a death threat about which she make a big fuss.

A second time when a private party (i.e. not an organization) booked a room for her in a public library and the library board tried to cancel because of the "offensive" nature of her material. There was a fuss not particularly about Weir but about library policy, which stated that any citizen of the town could book ar room and bring in a speaker.

I attempted to imporve the page by documenting these two incidents, bu it still seems a paltry record to justify a page.Thomas Babbington (talk) 15:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Thomas Babbingotn

The original aouthor of the article has not been notified because s/he has been banned from editing WikipediaThomas Babbington (talk) 11:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Thomas Babbington

Delete doesn't seem like a bio page as much as a self-promotion/advertisement for views and such. Jasynnash2 (talk) 12:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Although there is an obvious conflict of interest issue here I don't think we can delete the article based on that alone. After reading the references it's clear that she meets the notability standard. The rest is a cleanup issue. I do see some hard times in this article's future but AfD doesn't seem like the venue for addressing the problems presented.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 14:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Alison Weir (historian) deserves first recognition here, both by priority of birth and by significance; she has written ten best-selling history books, mostly about British royalty.  Whatever the fate of this page, I would move the historian to the main article and move this to Alison Weir (activist) or some such. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Quite right. Thomas Babbington (talk) 19:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Thomas Babbington
 * Good move. Noroton (talk) 17:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It is perhaps relevant that Alison's Weir's organization ]]If Americans Knew]] has a Wikipedia page on which she boasts about her accomplishments.Thomas Babbington (talk) 00:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Thomas Babbington
 * Delete Fails WP:N and WP:BIO. There is absolutely nothing cited that gives a significant amount of coverage from a reliable source independent of the subject. Noroton (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Noroton. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Vanity page. Only mentioned in newspapers in the two incidents described by Babbington above. All we need to know about her can be found on the If Americans Knew pageEvidence-based (talk) 21:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Evidence-based
 * Delete - non-notable activist whose bio Fails WP:N and WP:BIO. The COI issue alone would be enough to have the page deleted. Whatever info there is here that is sourced to reliable sources could be merged into If Americans Knew. Canadian Monkey (talk) 03:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


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