Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All-American Basketball Alliance (2010)


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The result was   keep. Shimeru (talk) 07:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

All-American Basketball Alliance (2010)

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Non-existent sports league dreamed up as publicity stunt by non-notable wrestling promoter. It's gotten a lot of "Hey, isn't this wacky" attention from the news media (and this week, The Daily Show) because it purports to be an all-white league, and then got an additional round of attention from civil rights groups falling for the publicity stunt, but I will wager thousands of dollars this thing never actually plays a full season. No evidence that there is any financial backing, no evidence that there's anything other than a single guy and his press releases. Even if there were financial backing, the league's all-white policy is illegal, so it's not going to happen. WP:NOT, WP:EFFECT, WP:PERSISTENCE: this is simply not encyclopedic. Wikipedia aspires to be more than just the repository of every single thing that had two or more news stories about it. THF (talk) 10:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The fact that newspapers and civil rights groups (and, apparently, the article's author) did "fall for it" is, in itself, notable. I can forsee that this would get mentioned in books in the future because of the blatant racism of this publicity stunt.  A weak keep, because I tend to agree with THF that we shouldn't reward people who strive to get attention (not that a Wikipedia article is much of a reward).  The fact remains that he did get attention.  Mandsford (talk) 13:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notability is not temporary. The absence if sustained coverage in secondary sources suggests that this league will not have lasting notability—note that there are no sources published after January cited. —C.Fred (talk) 14:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to actually search on your own, and you'll see that there are plenty of sources that have happened past January. Angryapathy (talk) 17:22, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:26, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep It's pretty simple: this has received a lot of attention in the media across a variety of sources. It's an idiot idea, for sure, but that's not what AfD is about. Does it pass WP:N? Yes, it does, as coverage in multiple sources shows us. Angryapathy (talk) 17:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. God forbid someone looking up a well-publicized subject on Wikipedia should find an informative article about it. Delete with the fire of a thousand suns! Delete! Delete! Pass the torches! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.247.14.8 (talk) 23:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This comment was meant to be sarcastic, wasn't it? Stonemason89 (talk) 01:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a good guess. However, I know 67.247, and when he intends to be sarcastic, he says, "Delete with the fire of 10,000 suns" and he says "Delete! Delete! Delete!".  What's really bad is that he's British, and when he refers to torches, he's referring to what American people call "flashlights".   Mandsford (talk) 13:54, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep – Seems to be reasonably well-sourced and notable enough for a page. There are a couple articles avaliable on Google News about the Daily Show appearance, indicating at least some continuing press coverage; in addition, there are a few articles from February, including an apparent German-language story. If/when this craziness is prevented from happening, I can easily see someone writing on it, so I'm also not ready to assume there will be no coverage from here on out.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 01:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - As Mandsford pointed out, the NAACP and other civil rights groups are taking it seriously. I highly doubt this is just a publicity stunt - if it was, Don Lewis would have shouted "Gotcha!" by now, since it's been over two months since the initial announcement. Stonemason89 (talk) 01:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Mansford and Stonemason.  Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 11:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
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