Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All-Time DDR-Oberliga Table


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Alpha_Quadrant   (talk)  23:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

All-Time DDR-Oberliga Table

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Contested PROD. Has now had a few references added, but I still think it falls afoul of WP:NOTSTATS and, most importantly, I can't find any significant coverage in independent sources, so I don't think this table is notable. Jenks24 (talk) 13:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Jenks24 (talk) 13:29, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Jenks24 (talk) 13:29, 7 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Jenks24 (talk) 13:29, 7 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: All-time tables are quite in German football publications. I've added two online examples from Weltfussball and Fussballdaten and I will look for some publications tomorrow. In the case of the DDR Oberliga the all-time table is quite interessting as the league does not exist anymore and therefore gives readers a quick run down as to who played in the league, how long and how successful. Calistemon (talk) 16:15, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Calistemon - this type of table is obviously notable in Germany, and is supported by reliable sources. GiantSnowman 16:34, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: Part of the German football project. There's a gang of us that keeps nibbling away at this stuff. Not all of it is beautiful yet, but its getting there. The East German side of things in general needs more attention. I'd rather having seen it tagged for needing tuned up as opposed to marked for deletion. Wiggy! (talk) 18:25, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Wiggy and Calistemon. The league itself is notable and this sourced table gives a good impression of the power balance in the league. Madcynic (talk) 12:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Wiggy and Calistemon. When such a table is referenced, I can't find any reason to delete it. Mentoz86 (talk) 19:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Well, this is definitely going to be kept and I'm OK with that. The only thing I don't get is why this table is considered so different to many others, most of which were referenced as well (e.g. All-Time Liga Nacional de Fútbol de Honduras table, All-time AFC Champions League table, All-time Albanian Superliga table, All-time Chinese Super League table, All-time Copa Interclubes UNCAF table, All-time Ecuadorian Serie A table, All-time Football League Championship table, All-time Iran Pro League table, All-time Israeli Premier League table, All-time K-League table, All-time League of Ireland table, All-time Ligue 1 table, All-time Peruvian Segunda División table, All-time Prva HNL table, All-time Serie A table, All-time Svenska Serien table, All-time TT Pro League table, All-time Thai Premier League table, All-time Torneo Descentralizado table, All-time Turkish Super League table, All-time Ukrainian First League table, All-time Ukrainian Premier League table, All-time Welsh Premier League table, All time Svenska Fotbollpokalen table). Even All-time FA Premier League table and All-time La Liga table were turned into redirects. I'm not trying to be a pain here, but why is the DDR-Oberliga special when it comes to all-time tables? Jenks24 (talk) 23:33, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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