Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AllMovie


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The case in favour of the topic being notable is compelling enough; there may be a case for a merger which should be discussed on the talk page. Concerns about promotional content here merit a maintenance tag or a cleanup, not deletion per the discussion Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:35, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

AllMovie

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Collectively created to build a group corporate spam along with group company. All Media Network. Non-notable. only blatant promotion. Light2021 (talk) 20:39, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete Per nominator, page was created in conjunction with All Media Network to advertise the company.--SamHolt6 (talk) 13:23, 20 July 2017 (UTC)




 * Keep per having extensive coverage in NEWS and BOOKS to meet WP:GNG and thus WP:ORG.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 07:17, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTYELLOW; no value to the readers at this time & strictly promotional. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "With encyclopedic breadth, Corel includes 90,000 reviews that attempt to quantify nearly every aspect of a movie by assigning numerical rankings to such intangibles as historical significance. Unfortunately, it’s also peppered with minor errors. ... For all its comprehensiveness, Corel includes some hilarious flubs. The time-period heading for The Big Chill is given as ”Middle Ages” (er, it’s about middle-agers); elsewhere the disc refers to Kevin Costner in Body Double (make that The Bodyguard). In November, the company plans to release a corrected version, free to registered owners." According to the book "All Music Guide to Country" edited by AllMovie founder Michael Erlewine, the CD-ROM format of the "All Movie Guide" books was released by the company Corel.  The article notes: "Allow me to introduce the solution -- Corel's 'All-Movie Guide.' Sure, there are a half-dozen other movie guides on the shelf for your computer, but none as comprehensive as Corel's. It not only contains everything you could possibly rent at your local Blockbuster Video, but it also has information on movies and performers you have probably never even heard of, whether or not they are available on video. The opening screen should look familiar -- it's a video store. Complete with a know-it-all clerk, the store offers clickable icons at every turn. A large counter displays categories from action/adventure to foreign films, mini TV-screens along the top offer games and information, and a scroll bar along the bottom gives you every option imaginable to browse through the films. The CD includes biographies, photographs and occasional interview clips from stars, directors, producers and writers. Everything on the database is cross-referenced perfectly. The blow-away feature of Corel's 'All-Movie Guide' is its learning curve. As you browse through listings, you can mark each film with a positive, negative or indifferent review. You can also check whether you've seen it, want to see it or have absolutely no interest."  The article notes: "All- Movie Guide For sheer quantity, Corel's entry is a runaway winner; with more than 90,000 movie and video reviews and 156,000 names of actors and others, it's twice as big as the other two put together. The quality is impressive too. The main screen is a video store with various objects to click on to browse movies, work your way through 12,000 directors or 14,000 famous stars. There's also a games section and a photo/interview option. (But if you click on the popcorn, it simply starts popping). There are 16 different categories of movies to chose from. The cast lists are enormous for the individual movies and you are also offered a long list of similar movies that you might be interested in. You can even annotate each movie, giving it your own thumbs up or thumbs down."  The article notes: "Even the fastest designers and programmers would take several weeks, working at top speed, to put together a CD-ROM like Corel All-Movie Guide. In a few weeks there will have been a number of films released that are not on the CD-ROM and for every week that you own it, it becomes more dated. ... With more than 90,000 films on this CD-ROM, it would be difficult not to find what you are looking for, provided it was not released only yesterday. In some respects the vastness of the information on this CD-ROM is something of a drawback. There is so much of it that it can be a little confusing trying to keep it organised. The design model for the CD-ROM is the local video shop. There are sections for all the usual types of film: horror, action, western, comedy, drama and television and documentary movies. You click on the type of film you want to see and a list comes up on the left-hand side of the screen. ... The details are impressive but it is obvious that the information has been scanned in with the help of optical character recognition (OCR) software. At least, it seems to me that this is what was done."  The article notes: "When it comes to CD-ROM movie guides, Microsoft's Cinemania is pretty much the undisputed king. But there are a couple of new pretenders to the throne that offer a few new wrinkles: Corel's All-Movie Guide and Video Hound Multimedia from Visible Ink Software. Instead of using up much of the CD-ROM's 650-megabyte capacity on highly compressed, postage-stamp-sized videos, the Corel disc has no video clips. But it places heavy emphasis on searchable text. For instance, the All-Movie Guide has information on 45,000 feature films, 45,000 videos and TV movies, and 12,000 foreign films. Corresponding numbers for Cinemania 95 are 17,000, 2,5000 and 6,400. It also lets you assign your own ratings to movies, test your knowledge with a trivia game and crossword puzzle and purchase movies online." <li> The book notes on page 284: "All-Movie Guide (http://www.allmovie.com/) Provided by New Age Voices, this virtual movie database offers a wide spectrum of information, trivia, and subject essays chronicling movies and the people who make them. Content is searchable using the site's main search engine or subject-specific search engines, such as Film Finder or People Finder. The site contains a section of comprehensive essays chronicling the history of different eras and genres of movies as well." The book notes on page 375: "All-Movie Guide (http://www.allmovie.com/) Features biographies of famous actors and directors, film finder and people finder databases, lengthy essays about film genres from action movies to westerns, information about current movies, and more."</li> <li> The book notes: "While the number of moviebased Web sites is voluminous, three in particular will likely be sufficient: All Movie, The lntemet Movie Database, and Rotten Tomatoes. AllMovie.com AllMovie (www.allmovie.com) is my favorite film-search Web site and is part of the All Media Guide of related Web sites." The book also notes: "The best feature on allmovie.com is that for each movie search the reader is also given a variety of related search links that descend on the left side of the Web page, underneath a photograph for the film. Categories such as 'Genre,' 'Types,' 'Keywords,' 'Themes,' and 'Tones,' provide more hyperlinks that lead to more movies. Continuing with the example of The Verdict, underneath the category of Types is listed 'courtroom drama.' By clicking on that, the reader is given a new Web page that summarizes what constitutes a courtroom drama movie, with suggested titles, and then a full list of movies that fit the courtroom drama theme. As of this writing, there were 64 movies listed, from Amistad to Young Mr. Lincoln, each one hyperlinked. Back on the main page for The Verdict, one of the words listed under the category of Keywords is “lawyer.” By clicking on that tag, you will be brought to a new page with hundreds of movies listed that can be directly accessed. By clicking on 'fighting the system' under Themes, there are dozens of movies listed, including Norma Rae and Office Space, two excellent movies with different approaches to an us-against-them-at-work narrative, each one with key scenes that could be used in a labor relations or corporations class. If your students haven't had a Lumbergh for a boss (or a red stapler), showing them a scene from Office Space might help you discuss the doctrine of at-will employment, or adequate provocation killings. After spending a few minutes on allmovie.com, you'll blissfully forget that there is more to preparing for class than prospecting for movies."</li> <li> The book notes: "This fun site contains a searchable movie database, film finder, people finder, glossary, essays, DVD reviews, and factoids. It also offers the All-Music Guide and All-Game Guide."</li> <li> The article notes: "A fantastic resource for movie lovers! The All-Movie guide is a vast database which enables keyword searches for both movie titles and actors. We lost ourselves in, rather, tested this site for quite some time and it consistently brought up ratings, plot synopses, and information like total gross of and any warnings about the most obscure of movies. Directors and stars of individual movies are hyper-linked to biographies and other pertinent info. Visitors can also browse the All-Movie Guide by moods, countries, genres and time periods. This site is produced by New Age Voices."</li> <li> The article notes: "All-Movie Guide is a 131,000-movie database with information about directors, stars, grosses, genres, credits and a nice section where you can find movies with similar themes or the same 'touch and feel.' There are no movie reviews."</li> <li> The article notes: "Another five-star site is the All-Movie Guide which allows searches by film title and by actor name. The movie guide provides a synposis of the film's plot and links to the biographies of main stars."</li> <li> The article notes: "New on Prodigy is the All-Movie Guide, which contains loads of information on more than 50,000 movie titles - from the silent film era to the latest blockbusters. Movies can be searched by the name of the actor or actress, movie title, category of film (such as children's, documentary, feature or TV), name of the producer or director and genre (such as comedy, adventure, silent thriller, mystery, Western and more). And parents can use the All-Movie Guide to determine quickly if a film is age-appropriate for young viewers."</li> <li> The article notes: "And without question, The Internet Movie Database (us.imdb.com) and The All-Movie Guide (allmovie.com) should be required bookmarks for any classic film buff. Both are the equivalent of film encyclopedias with biographical data on every performer and crew member, plus technical data on even the most obscure film."</li> <li> The article notes: "If you're mainly after professional movie reviews and don't care about scads of trivia, the All Movie Guide site (http://www.allmovie.com) may be your ticket. Just put the movie in question into the search bar, and you'll get a rundown that includes a star rating (0-5), who's in it, who directed it and a few other details. Then you get a plot synopsis and, finally, an expert's review of the film."</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow AllMovie to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 01:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC) </ul>


 * Comment about promotion: The article is largely neutral. It does not violate WP:NOTYELLOW or WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Cunard (talk) 01:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - per Cunards sources. Enough to meet the GNG. Massive cleanup is more appropriate than deletion. Sergecross73   msg me  02:05, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 *  Keep or merge - Keep, or merge to Michael Erlewine. --Jax 0677 (talk) 03:40, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per multiple, reliable sources provided by Schmidt and Cunard, demonstrating notability. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 23:33, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge to Allmusic, or All Media Network, or Erlewine himself. We don't need largely duplicative articles about each branch of a relatively small operation. Anmccaff (talk) 05:22, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


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