Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All Lights Fucked on the Hairy Amp Drooling (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  08:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

All Lights Fucked on the Hairy Amp Drooling
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Does not appear to meet notability requirements. Previous deletion discussion seems to predate WP:MUSIC, as all the arguments seem to rely on notability being inherited. RF23 (talk) 20:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment This album does not exist. WP:NALBUM would normally be the criteria for deciding whether to keep the article, but in this case, the "album" appears to have been a rumor invented or encouraged by the band for the sake of having an air of mystique, so the relevant criteria would instead be whatever we use to adjudge the notability of cryptids and UFO sightings. AfD is the wrong venue for determining whether this should be deleted or not, since obviously we do not want to have a redlink here; the nominator should pursue a redirect or merge discussion instead. Chubbles (talk) 00:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Godspeed You! Black Emperor and merge a couple of lines into the history section.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:27, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Do not understand the rationale for deletion. Chubbles’ theory above is unsupported speculation contradicted by the available evidence as cited in the article; the fact that it is widely discussed in major music magazines is in itself prima facie evidence of its notability. There are many articles about lost films, lost manuscripts, etc. so the fact that it is unavailable commercially is not relevant. Tothebarricades (talk) 02:36, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess the real question (regardless of whether it is a "lost work" or a fictional album) is whether it passes GNG. Chubbles (talk) 05:13, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes - I have had my doubts as well, but it doesn’t seem like the role of a tertiary source to adjudicate that sort of thing. A quick Google Books search turns up mentions in Colin Larkin’s ‘’The Encyclopedia of Popular Music’’, among other things, so there’s no reason it shouldn’t be up here. (https://books.google.com/books?id=_NNmFiUnSmUC&pg=PA1439&dq=%22all+lights+fucked%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjp1enM55_pAhVGl3IEHU1ADJYQ6AEIMzAC#v=onepage&q=%22all%20lights%20fucked%22&f=false) Tothebarricades (talk) 18:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Something tells me Larkin wrote that from the band's press kit, not having heard anything firsthand, but... there it is, in the books. Chubbles (talk) 18:58, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Godspeed You! Black Emperor: Though there are sources about this "lost work", its existence remains in question. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 05:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Why is it that you bookburners always seem to get your way in these things? Completely fascistic philistine idiocy. Why even bother discussing? Tothebarricades (talk) 20:55, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisted per this deletion review.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —S Marshall T/C 19:41, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep The article appears to meet WP:GNG. I would point to the three sources already used by the article, which report on the Casketjack leak.   There are other sources but most of them are too closely related to the band or label for them to qualify of WP:GNG in my opinion.  It also seems to meet WP:NALBUMS on the same grounds, but if we are being honest here I fail to see how something qualifing for WP:GNG could fail to meet WP:NALBUMS. Apart from this more formal argument, I also think it would be of detriment to the encyclopedia to lose this article.  It is an interesting subject that is worth reading about. Since there is enough material to make a well cited article, I believe it would be best to keep it. AquitaneHungerForce (talk) 21:32, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Changed my vote, per deletion review. Its existence remains in question as to being a "lost work" or a fan-exclusive album. Nonetheless, the "album" is also featured in Nashville Scene, The Rough Guide to the Best Music You've Never Heard, The Rough Guide to Rock and The Wire. With all the sources indicated in this AfD, the article easily passes WP:NEXIST and WP:FUTUREALBUM. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 15:59, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - It may be a lost album, but the sources in the article (including this one), and the one shown by prove it's notability. (This one). Kori das  📣 05:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as per and . The album does have Reliable sources.   Dtt1 Talk  14:20, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.