Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All UC Davis alumni by department


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. WP:SNOW. Clear WP:NOTDIR violation even ignoring possible self-promotion issues. postdlf (talk) 13:59, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

All UC Davis alumni by department

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I can't find an appropriate CSD criteria, but this incipient list is apparently trying to create an alumni directory, contrary to WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK. Additionally, WP:LISTPEOPLE applies, as a list of non-notable people has little or no use in an international encyclopedia. --Animalparty-- (talk) 17:38, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete This would clearly be a directory. There is already a list of notable UCD grads. Kitfoxxe (talk) 02:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep I created it because (1) there is no equivalent "location" on the internet for these kinds of directories (Facebook is NOT public) and (2) grads from that department *are* notable as PhD researchers, professors, etc. Are hockey players and city politicians more "notable"? Is there a wiki-alumni out there? (I am a fan of the "inclusive" wikipedia) Davidzet (talk) 08:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - You may want to consider using a place like Wikia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a general purpose hosting facility. -- Whpq (talk) 15:43, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ps... I just read a series of edits by you, Kitfoxxe, and I see that there are many rules and protocols. I am not sure why "directory" is banned and where "notable" is defined, but why don't we wait a few weeks to see if this page turns useful for the small community of interested people (me and other UCD grads) as well as people trying to understand more about our department. An encyclopedia, after all, is a reference. Davidzet (talk) 08:50, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete for reasons already given: it's not the purpose of Wikipedia to list every graduate of every college in the world, and there's nothing special about the person on this list. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a collection of every bit of trivial information in the world, and therefore is somewhat selective. This information belongs on the UC Davis website, not here.
 * WP:N defines what notable means: just because someone is a researcher or university faculty member doesn't mean they're notable if they're not written about in properly-published third-party sources; WP:SCHOLAR explains what it takes to be a notable academic, and basically it requires you to have made a significant contribution to learning beyond what is typical for an academic. Aside from that, lists are generally expected to have more than one member. Colapeninsula (talk) 09:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 *  Keep  I'm not talking about "every graduate in the world" so please refrain. the list has one member -- me -- because editors are so fast to delete pages that others cannot add their information. What do I do to claim notable? Do I list my two books, several dozen research articles, teaching at different universities? Interviews with dozens of media outlets?. UC Davis does NOT make this information available -- except for marketing credit cards -- and wikipedia IS the go-to source for information. Why are GDP lists more important than PhD lists -- to the right person? It's not like wikipedia is running out of pages. The Egyptian empire is gone, but wikipedia maintains a list of alumni - may of them non-notable. Davidzet (talk) 12:50, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Please, only one !vote per customer. -- Whpq (talk) 15:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - The purpose of this list is explicitly to list people who are not eligible for List of University of California, Davis alumni. This is clearly a case of directory / social network.  The list includes links to resumes, facebook pages etc. -- Whpq (talk) 15:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:27, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:28, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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 *  Keep  until you tell me a better user-edited public place for this information AND tell me how the list "ruins" wikipedia. You're saying, in other words, "wikipedia is not for this" except that's a subjective statement AND there's no other place that IS better for this. I'm looking for some help here, and all I'm getting is bureaucracy. Davidzet (talk) 12:20, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ps: Many "notable" alumni could fit on this list as well as having their own wikipedia pages. I could write my own, from what I see, but (1) that page is organized badly ("business" "other") and (2) it's ALSO good to have a complete list, rather than a partial list of Aggies who bother to promote themselves. (I doubt that ALL personal pages are written by third parties...) Davidzet (talk) 12:35, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You may comment as much as you like, but you should only express your "keep" once. As for getting no help, it's explained to you why this article is not appropriate for Wikipedia.  Nobody is going to help you build an article which doesn't belonf here in the first place.  I pointed you to Wikia as an alternative earlier on.  I suggest you look into that instead. -- Whpq (talk) 12:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
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