Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allama Anees-ul-Hasnain


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. &mdash; Scientizzle 02:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Allama Anees-ul-Hasnain

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No reliable sources. Claims notability, but the claims are effectively unverifiable. For example, the Library of Congress doesn't carry any of the books he's supposed to have written. Has been deleted before under a different title, but is (if memory serves) sufficiently different to avoid speedy deletion as a repost. Was prodded, prod removed by author. Huon (talk) 14:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Would please stop this childish behavior of yours, don't you have anything better to deal with? As per reliable sources the sources i have mentioned are reliable and since this article is a stub, i am currently working over it by providing further reliable sources. Even Before you couldn't stand this article and nominated it for speedy deletion yet again you are showing your true personal grudge against Shia related-stubs and articles. In this regard i have no other option left except for personally victimizing you and your related work. Stop being biased i know you can't stand this mire reality.SyedNaqvi90 (talk) 05:09, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I guess the matter is now settled and the Deletion message on the page should me removed and we should continue by further improving the article. SyedNaqvi90 (talk) 09:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


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 * Comment - the matter isn't settled yet. AfD runs for seven days, maybe longer if consensus isn't established by then. Please refrain from removing the deletion message until then. You can, of course, continue to improve the article, and in my opinion it needs such improvement in order to be kept. I'm still not convinced by its sources. We have:
 * Two websites that look like local community efforts, hardly satisfying WP:RS. One lists the name without any additional information whatsoever, the other actually is about Husnain, but it's in Urdu and thus unhelpful for the vast majority of our readers. (By the way, the Urdu Wikipedia doesn't have an article on Husnain.)
 * A newspaper article which mentions him as a Shia scholar in connection with Muhammad Ali Jinnah's burial. A reliable source, but a passing mention at best.
 * Two blogs, one of which actually mentions Husnain. It refers to the author of the newspaper article and rehashes the information given there.
 * Some sort of encyclopedia that only mentions Husnain in a "possibly related" section and refers back to Wikipedia.
 * None of those, nor all combined, suffice to satisfy the general notability guideline, which requires a topic to have "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Huon (talk) 13:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Well instead of criticizing my effort you can kindly help me with further improving the article. I don't accept that your claims regarding insufficient sources. All these sources are not self made, they are all independent neutral sources. I don't understand why are you the only one against this article why not others? What makes me feel is that you are inparticularly victimizing me, and since this respective personality is supporting the claim for being a witness to Jinnah's funeral prayers according to Shia rituals along with Yusuf Haroon, Hashim Raza, Aftab Hatim Alvi and Liaquat Ali Khan. Hence you want to Diminish this fact like an ignorant lad, like you have done before. I hope the respective admin settles the stubs so that i can continue by further editing the article. It needs time, please stop criticizing help me improving the content. SyedNaqvi90 (talk) 15:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Non-notable. There's just not enough information available about this person to be able to judge his notability. Considering that he lived before the internet age, I thought there might be something in Google Books, but there was not a single hit - either with or without the title "Allama". Granted, there may be sources in Urdu, but if so you would think he would have an entry in the Urdu wikipedia. BTW SyedNaqvi, you are not helping your case with your nasty attacks on the nominator and your constantly begging other people to "improve the article". If there are no reliable sources to verify what is said or to establish notability, there is nothing we (or you) can do to "improve the article", it will simply have to go. --MelanieN (talk) 04:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. All I can find in Google books and Google news archive (under the spelling "Allama Syed Anisul Husnain") was the pointless anecdote already described in the article that he ran someone's funeral properly. That's far from enough for WP:GNG or any other notability criterion. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


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