Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allan Andrews (British politician)


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The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 00:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Allan Andrews (British politician)

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Politician in local government who runs a facebook group as his claim to notability. While no doubt notable in south Coventry, he's not notable as far as Wikipedia is concerned. The Cavalry (Message me) 19:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep--I disagree. City councillors of a major metropolitan city are notable, and with a population of over 300K Coventry qualifies. The article needs more sources, but can be and should be saved. Meelar (talk) 16:57, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I'd seriously question the fact that Coventry is a major metropolitan city. It isn't even the largest city in its region. Secondly however the WP:POLITICIAN guideline doesn't say that city councillors are automatically notable it says "2.Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. Generally speaking, mayors of cities of at least regional importance are likely to meet this criterion, as are members of the main citywide government or council of a major metropolitan city."

So even if we accept the dubious proposition that Coventry is a major metropolitan city, being a city councillor there isn't enough. He still needs to achieve significant press coverage to be notable and having hunted for that, I'm not seeing any significant press coverage for him. Valenciano (talk) 18:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC) 
 * Delete no significant coverage. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:39, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep I am a Californian, so I was previously unaware that Coventry is considered a backwater by some. I also am aware that the definition of "major metropolitan city" is somewhat subjective.  However, in my opinion, a city of over 300,000 that is the 11th largest in the United Kingdom, qualifies as a major metropolitan city.  I would certainly consider any California city (such as Oakland, California for example) of roughly that size as a major metropolitan city.  I would also presume that a search for sources that properly disambiguates such a common name as "Allan Andrews" would uncover an abundance of reliable sources covering such a politician.  Am I wrong?  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  05:39, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Perhaps "councillor" signifies something different in California; in England it's generally a very minor position. Andrews doesn't represent the whole of Coventry, but is just one of three councillors in one ward, which is itself just one of 18 wards of the city council. Also, on Googling "Allan Andrews" Coventry I find nothing beyond run-of-the-mill local councillor business. --A bit iffy (talk) 09:20, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Concur with Valenciano that WP:POLITICIAN does not automatically confer notability on council members. They must still receive "significant press coverage" and I dont see evidence of that in Google. --Noleander (talk) 22:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I would agree that ordinary councillors at any level in the UK are not inherently notable. If they hold some higher office within the council, such as leader, that may well make them notable (for county and unitary authority councils at least), but an ordinary ward councillor is not. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:52, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
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