Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of war crimes against U.S. officials


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. Carlossuarez46 19:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Allegations of war crimes against U.S. officials
This is essentially original research, and an arbitrary list. It states that certain USA politicians have been accused of war crimes but not convicted of anything. That's hardly novel - politicians are accused of random bad stuff all the time. For some reason this list focuses almost exclusively on the Bush administration, which means it's probably created for POV pushing. But a List of politicians who were accused of stuff without strong evidence is not encyclopedic.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  11:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. If the bounds of the article were more strict, then it could be a keep. But as it stands, merge salvageable content to Human rights and the United States. Recurring dreams 12:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Dubious original research to push a partisan political view. Nick mallory 12:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Blatant POV pushing. Jmm6f488 15:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, but ensure that the individuals' articles cover the allegations if they are properly sourced. The info is notable, just not in an article of its own, as that strays into synthesis problems of trying to tie disparate administrations into a whole for indictment. Tarc 15:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just an FYI, but this is apparently the article's 2nd nomination.  The first was under a different name: Articles for deletion/Alleged U.S. war criminals. Tarc 15:25, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Slapping together some facts to make a broad point is WP:OR, in my opinion Corpx 15:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Although the present article is a bare-faced PoV pusher, it could conceivably be re-created the instant a US official is actually charged with war crimes. (That, needless to say, is extremely unlikely ever to happen). --Targeman 15:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with Recurring dreams - if this were something more coherent in scope there might be an article here, but as it stands it is little more than a lot of original research with little focus or goal. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 16:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete NN --PEAR (talk) 19:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:BOLLOCKS. So only people from the Johnson Nixon and Bush2 presidencies have ever been accused of war crimes by anyone? Utter pov nonsense.
 * Delete this is a synthesis and probably a POV driven one. The article is an absolute violation of WP:OR-- Cailil   talk 17:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete this is clear POV pushing Harlowraman 18:34, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete While a documented, neutral article about allegations might be worthwhile, this one is poorly researched and written. We have that Robert McNamara is the "prime architect" of the Vietnam War, and that Henry Kissinger was guilty of being Secretary of State under Richard Nixon, followed by some factoids about how the Iraq War might be a war crime.  Mandsford 23:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree that such an article would be potentially valuable. It must; however, not be so myopic as this one. Allegations of war crimes have been made against American officials in a number of conflicts including the American Civil War, the Second World War and Korea. I find it amazing that (even given the POV pushing) allegations re Hiroshima/Nagasaki being a war-crime are not mentioned. Bigdaddy1981 00:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Obvious POV pushing - it would require a substantial rewrite in order to become a decent article. —  Wen li  (contribs) 23:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.