Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegiance: Patriotic Song


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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 00:00, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Allegiance: Patriotic Song

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No evidence that  the song is notable; the references   just show it exists &was included in a comprehensive anthology. SeeWP:NSONGS for the requirements.

I would have listed it for speedy deletion, except that there is an article on an individual who may have been the composer Julia Smith (composer), though since she was born in 1905, it seems unlikely--but not impossible.  DGG ( talk ) 16:40, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Song is notable, due to context and record of performance and publication which is not yet reflected in this stub.  Pre 1923 music, especially sheet music scores, has a different measure of notability that is not adequately reflected in WP:NSONGS.  This is a stub in progress.  TeriEmbrey (talk) 16:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep I am not surprised the nominator can't find any contemporary internet articles about this song. We have 87 song articles for 1918 songs and 1697 for 2015. Music was just as important, probably more so, and much more song-led than today's singer-led. WP:NSONGS is incorrectly (IMO) geared towards "singles" rather than the crux of the matter, the song. Given the difficulty of establishing the notability of 1918 song, a little more time than one day should be allowed. A notability tag would have been much more useful at this stage. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Further consensus needed, only two keep !votes (including the article creator) st170e talk 22:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170e talk 22:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Julia Smith at best because I could've considered deleting but regardless redirecting is something particularly sufficient, still questionable at best for the best available improvements thus still questionable. SwisterTwister   talk  18:28, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


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