Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegra "Happy" Haynes


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The result was   no consensus. v/r - TP 19:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Allegra "Happy" Haynes

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Article does not give evidence of notability Night of the Big Wind (talk) 03:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep. Article did not explain her notability, but (after doing some research and editing the article) I think she meets the criteria, albeit marginally. Local politicians aren't generally notable under WP:BIO, but Haynes has gotten a lot of ink in her many years in a big city's government, and she was the first African American woman on Denver's City Council. The article as I found it needed a lot of work, and I didn't do nearly all that was needed. --Orlady (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. "an aide to two mayors" does not suffice for notability. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:30, 28 June 2011 (UTC).
 * Comment. At the time of the AfD nomination, the lead described her as "chief community engagement officer for Denver Public Schools," which is definitely not a notable status (even if you consider that her first boss there is now a U.S. Senator -- notability is not inherited). When I first saw the article (before I did some searching), I thought it was an obvious "delete." I edited the lead, and I agree that "aide to two mayors" also is not a stand-alone indication of notability. I was thinking more in terms of "first African American woman on Denver's City Council" (not currently in the lead) being the strongest indicator of notability, in combination with being "aide to two mayors" (one of whom became a Cabinet Secretary and the other of whom became governor -- notability is not inherited, but connections to powerful people do make a person influential), 12 years (I think) on Denver City Council including two years as its president, and other public roles. There is a lot of reliable-source material out there identifying Haynes as an important mover in Denver and Colorado public affairs, although no single attribute is an indicator of notability. --Orlady (talk) 13:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Being a first African American woman on a local council may have sufficed long ago, but it is no longer notable in and of itself. African Americans and women have already "broken the barriers" for the highest local political offices long ago. Being an aide doesn't count either. Agricola44 (talk) 15:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC).


 * Delete. As just described. SPA-created, this is probably just a vanity or fan page. Agricola44 (talk) 15:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC).
 * Keep--per WP:POLITICIAN, "members of the main citywide government or council of a major metropolitan city" are notable by definition, and she served three terms on the Denver City Council (including one as president of the Council). Meelar (talk) 18:18, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment--or, to clarify, they are if they get decently sourced coverage, but citations from the Rocky Mountain News and Denver Post definitely qualify. Meelar (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J04n(talk page) 05:28, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep as Meelar pointed out, she meets WP:POLITICIAN #2. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
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