Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegro Realty Advisors


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Although a number of arguments were advanced about sources, none of them covered this company in a way that satisfies the guideline for corporate notability. Kafziel Ask me for rollback 00:44, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Allegro Realty Advisors

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Lack of notability (not even asserted). Lack of interest in growing article beyond stub since 2006. Failed prod. Toddst1 (talk) 20:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC) 
 * Keep. I added some articles from a magazine and from a newspaper which mention the company as a real-estate consulting firm. --Eastmain (talk) 04:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 04:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 04:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete unless better sources can be found to show notability. In a quick google search I didn't find any but perhaps they exist.  The problem with the articles is that they are about commercial real estate deals -- the day in / day out news of a typical local business journal -- and they mention only in passing that Allegro represented one of the parties.  Using that standard every single commercial real estate service would be notable.  They just aren't substantive mentions.  What would be needed is a news article about the realty office or something extraordinary or noteworthy that it did.  Or some other indication that the firm is particularly important, worth knowing about, etc.Wikidemo (talk) 10:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete No assertion of notability, at least two of the references were only tangential mentions, and it appears to be nothing more than advertising. Dchall1 (talk) 00:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I originally inserted this article because this “small business” actively provides services in every U.S. state and internationally each year. The references that have recently been added help; however, they do not tell the full story about how this company serves and influences clients on a global scale, including many Fortune 1000 companies, like-sized privately held companies, and government agencies from NASA and DFAS to counties and municipalities. While each real estate project may not be notable, the company’s geographic coverage rivals large publicly traded companies in their industry (many of whom are notable enough to have stubs in Wikipedia).  To prove this notability, one may have to add a ton of references to project articles, state by state (e.g., see RE Business Online which includes a handful of regional editions).  Also, the executives of this company have often been interviewed as experts in global, regional and local publications on issues within their industry (e.g., see Urban Land, Site Selection, Corporate Real Estate Executive, Shopping Center News, Heartland Business Real Estate…) and beyond, such as running small businesses (e.g., see Crain’s Cleveland Business,  a number of other US market business publications, Inside Business, Smart Business News, Small Business Advocate radio show, Cleveland Plain Dealer, various Sun Press publications, Administaff radio commercials, etc.).  I’ll try to spend some time beefing up the article, because I think it would be a mistake (with bias to large corporations) to eliminate Allegro Realty Advisors without cutting out most other global companies in the industry. Mayor Pez (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Mayor Pez removed the AFD notice from the article on January 14. I relisted the article on January 17. -  Krakatoa  Katie  01:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Krakatoa  Katie  01:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak delete - There is coverage, but it's brief and comes really from just one source, "Crain's Cleveland Business" which is a local business magazine. For a global consultancy with notability, I would expect more coverage than a couple of articles ina local business magazine. -- Whpq (talk) 18:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Companies has been informed of this ongoing discussion. User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article simply does not assert notability.  Vegaswikian (talk) 01:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I extended the search beyond Google and found many objective secondary sources with broader coverage than commercial real estate deals (which themselves appear to be far flung across the U.S.). Also, some of these sources demonstrated the notability of this company among its peers in the industry.  The company appears to be noted for its pioneering business structure and fee methods as compared to conventional real estate brokerage firms.  Also, Companies WikiProject rated the article as of "high-importance".76.241.129.121 (talk) 01:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: 76.241.129.121 is a WP:SPA having only edits about Allegro Realty Advisors Toddst1 (talk) 02:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.