Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alma Powell


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The result was keep DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Alma Powell

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Fails WP:NOTINHERITED. She is simply the wife of Collin Powell, who assists him in running one of his organizations. PrairieKid (talk) 01:31, 1 October 2013 (UTC) Nominator has Withdrawn Nomination: While I still STRONGLY believe this article fails WP:NOTINHERITED, I see that consensus has been reached to the contrary and, in honor of the Democratic system I so support on here, I will heed to my fellow editors and withdraw this nomination. PrairieKid (talk) 17:12, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep Yet another misapplication of WP:NOTINHERITED. It doesn't matter who a person is married to so long as they do something, and not sit on the couch and collect accolades for being someone. What has Alma Powell done? She is an author of two books, and she is founder and co-chair of America's Promise, both of which has given her a great deal of independent notability. She has also given Congressional testimony, numerous awards and honors.


 * Reviews and coverage of her books per WP:AUTHOR #3:
 * Rust, Suzanne. Black Issues Book Review, May/Jun2003, Vol. 5 Issue 3, p57.
 * BookTV an hour-long national cable program..
 * "America's Promise." Horn Book Guide, Fall 2003: 336.
 * "America's Promise." School Library Journal, June 2003: 113.
 * Patrick, Diane. "Multicultural Children's Book Festival." Publishers Weekly 8 Sept. 2003: 25. ("Presenting authors will include Alma Powell..")
 * "America's Promise. (National Report)." Jet 30 June 2003: 12.
 * "My Little Red Wagon." Publishers Weekly 26 May 2003: 72.
 * "My Little Wagon. (Children's Books)." Kirkus Reviews 1 Mar. 2003: 395.
 * "My Little Wagon (Book)". Markland, Kyissa. Essence (Time Inc.). Dec2003, Vol. 34 Issue 8, p210-210.


 * Other sources per WP:GNG:
 * "Alma Powell receives Bouchet Legacy Award." ASHA Leader 30 Oct. 2012: 7. (2012 Edward Alexander Bouchet Legacy Award from Howard University)
 * Smith, Portsia. "Alma Powell lauds county for keeping pledge to youth " The Free Lance-Star (Fredericksburg, VA). 09/17/2011.
 * "Booker and Powell to Receive Honorary Doctorates at Fisk University Commencement (cover story)" Tennessee Tribune. 4/28/2011, Vol. 22 Issue 17, p1A-8B.
 * STEPHANOPOULOS, GEORGE. "The Powell's Passion" Good Morning America (ABC). 3/2/2010, p1-1.
 * "STATE OF AMERICAN CHILDREN". FDCH Congressional Testimony. 06/08/2010
 * Budd, Ken. "Alma Powell: Children's Advocate." AARP: The Magazine. Jan/Feb 2009, Vol. 52 Issue 1C, p36-36.
 * "In praise of volunteerism." Jet 17 Mar. 2008: 25. ("Alma Powell .. praises Mississippi for its aggressive approach to high school dropout prevention through a statewide dropout prevention summit in Jackson, MS. The summit drew more than 2,000 educators..")
 * The World Affairs Council of Washington, DC Global Leadership Award in 2007.
 * Larry King. Larry King Live (CNN). 06/28/2007
 * Johnson, Rebecca. "Alma Powell goes public: she may be intensely private, but the general's wife has lots to say about raising her three kids (often alone), helping others, and the real reason her husband didn't run for president. (real lives)." Good Housekeeping Apr. 2003: 113+.
 * "Alma Powell Writing Children's Books", Associated Press, 06/25/2002
 * "Alma Powell talks about depression." Jet 17 Mar. 1997: 9.
 * "The most fascinating women of the year. (cover story)." ''Ladies' Home Journal. Jan97, Vol. 114 Issue 1, p42. 6p.
 * "Alma Powell." Jet 3 Mar. 1997: 20. ("Alma Powell .. has been elected as a vice-chair of the Kennedy Center.")
 * Rena Pederson. "Alma Powell on her own" Dallas Morning News (TX). 12/16/1997
 * Gerhart, Ann; Groer, Annie. "Alma Powell, looking ahead" Washington Post 02/25/97, Vol. 120 Issue 82, pE3.
 * "Colin Powell's wife reveals she got hate mail during time he considered bid for president." Jet 6 May 1996: 12.
 * McElwaine, Sandra. "Her American journey; when he faced the toughest choice of his life, Colin Powell turned to his most trusted advisor: his wife, Alma." Ladies Home Journal May 1996: 152+.
 * Pooley, Eric. "WHY ALMA DIDN'T WANT THE JOB." Time magazine 20 Nov. 1995: 50+.
 * Sanz, Cynthia; Kramer, Linda. "Woman of influence." People. 11/20/95, Vol. 44 Issue 21, p50.
 * Thomas, Evan. "The general's lady." Newsweek 13 Nov. 1995: 37+.
 * Auster, Bruce B. "She, too, has been the good soldier." U.S. News & World Report 13 Nov. 1995: 32.
 * "Powell's wife opposes him running." Navy Times 9/18/95, Vol. 44 Issue 50, p2. 1/9p.
 * "Wife of Powell sees danger in candidacy." New York Times. 9/9/95, Vol. 144 Issue 50179, p6.
 * Means, Howard. "Taps and reveille." Washingtonian Oct. 1992: 52+.
 * Watters, Susan. "The General's lady." Ebony Sept. 1991: 52+.


 * -- Green Cardamom (talk) 21:40, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Most, if not all, of the sources you mention (that I can check) have to do with her as Powell's wife, not as her own person.
 * The early ones are arguably I'd agree but once you get to 1997 (Rena Pederson. "Alma Powell on her own" Dallas Morning News) she emerges as an independent entity. In any case her husband clearly didn't author children's books, or testify before Congress on children's issues, or receive the awards she has, etc.. as Tokyogirl79 said, she is always going to be spoken of in the context of her husband but that doesn't mean anything if she is actually doing things that receive recognition. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 18:47, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep and Expand.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. You're likely to never find an article that doesn't mention her husband in some form or fashion. However she is notable outside of her husband, especially in the forum of education- which is probably why she has a library branch named after her. The article needs to be expanded, but that's pretty much the only thing that needs to be done. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:27, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * A lot of people have library branches named after them. Should I make an article on every one of them? PrairieKid (talk) 17:23, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * That's a logical fallacy known as a strawman. Tokyogirl79 gave the library as one more piece of the overwhelming pile of evidence. You took that one piece alone and held it up as the sole evidence in order to knock it down. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 18:54, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Keep - Overwhelming evidence has already been listed. Human.v2.0 (talk) 09:46, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - I agree that she will always be mentioned as being married to Colin Powell, and I don't doubt that being his wife helped open some doors, but given the coverage and what she has done, it's quite clear that WP:GNG has been met. -- Whpq (talk) 16:24, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
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