Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alma Preinkert


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:29, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Alma Preinkert

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Notable for a crime which was not well-documented, thereby failing WP:GNG, and fails other criteria at WP:CRIME. Jay Σεβαστός discuss  21:09, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:VICTIM. If the house or the center within it were notable enough we could redirect there but they don't seem to be either. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per WP:HEY. The sources added by Msrasnw make a clearer case for the enduring notability of this crime. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:23, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: The sources in google books seem to me to indicate that she was a notable and repesected administrator and that her notability might have been added to by her murder and the whole Metropolitan Police Detective force is combing Washington for the unidentified prowler who fatally slashed Mrs. Alma Preinkert.(Chronicler for 1954 Records of the Columbia Historical Society). The resulting naming of a building Preinkert Field House and a road Preinkert Drive after her would seem indicative of notability. I am not sure about the ghost stuff in google books but that might well lead some to look for a page. (Msrasnw (talk) 11:19, 4 May 2012 (UTC))
 * Keep - seem to pass WP:GNG. also per Preinkert Field House and a road Preinkert Drive.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:59, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:41, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Question: Does anyone have access to "Washington Post" archives? This source I think implies that she was covered in the Post which should help with establishing notability. (Msrasnw (talk) 11:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC))
 * I don't have access, but it's quite evident that her case was got a bunch of coverage at the Washington Post at the time, e.g., . As I read it, 4,5,6,7,10,11,15,17,18,19... refer to the murder and most of the others likely refer to her in the context of her as registrar. --joe deckertalk to me 18:24, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep There's a fair swath of WaPo coverage, even if I can't get to it. I'd be only a bit hesitant to suggest any verdict but keep on that basis alone, particularly given that she seems to have gotten coverage (at least mentions) in decades before her murder, Add this to the coverage already at the article, and I have trouble imagining this doesn't meet the not only GNG but includes the sort of coverage one needs to get past BIO1E, etc.  (Still, should there be lingering questions about her notability beforehand, my preference would be (as a second choice to keep) a refactoring to a "Murder of"/"Death of" article, the 50-year-retrospectives establish coverage which lasts beyond a news cycle, and so forth. )  --joe deckertalk to me 18:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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