Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aloha Travel Trailers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete and userfy to User:Katr67/Aloha Trailer Company. Scott Mac (Doc) 20:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Aloha Travel Trailers

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Prod declined by author. No reliable sources given or found to establish notability of a company. Company appears to actually be "Aloha Trailer Company", but no good sources found for that either, other than confirming existence. tedder (talk) 17:07, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions.  -- tedder (talk) 17:07, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- tedder (talk) 17:08, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, pending search for reliable sources. I suspect that because of this company's demise pre-Internet, there is more to be found at the library, if anyone is willing to do some research. My gut feeling is this is certainly as Northwesty and notable as White Stag. (Which I know is not a proper argument against deletion, but I think my hunches are usually pretty good.) Katr67 (talk) 17:56, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, from Katr's research on the article talk page, looks like a valid company. I even sense a DYK in its future. Suggest move to Aloha Trailer Company. --Esprqii (talk) 00:47, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think we should move it too, but sometimes that causes a mess while the Afd is running. Katr67 (talk) 01:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Esp- it's a valid company, but are the non-minor sources enough to establish notability? Certainly the SEC link is helpful, but what else establishes it, aside from having advertising? And yeah, please don't move it until the AFD is over. I'll take care of any wanted moves at that time. tedder (talk) 01:53, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Then again, the thing seems to have more notability than the company. Lots of hits on people restoring them and so forth; nothing super reliable yet, but still. Oh, and then there's some fun meta stuff. Which I see Katr is all over already. --Esprqii (talk) 07:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak delete - while I share the concern that this pre-dates the web, a search for just "Aloha" on The Oregonian index comes up empty. Now, the index is far from perfect as it does not search the full text of all the articles and relies on the headlines and keywords, but it is a general indicator. Additionally, the Oregonian's 1987-on archives also comes up empty. So at this point delete seems in order, unless more items are found. A trip to the Hillsboro library to search through old Argus papers might turn something up, as would finding old copies of the Beaverton Valley Times and the Aloha Breeze (I don't know without a search where archives for those are located). Please note I will not be doing these searches, just a suggestion for the article creator to find the sources needed. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete -- It needs a great deal more evidcne of notability, before Iwould want to keep it. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete just not finding reliable sources for this one RadioFan (talk) 13:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment what is wrong with you people?!? Why should Shasta travel trailers have an entry and not Aloha? What kind of notability are you looking for?  This was a travel trailer company that in Oregon for more than 20 years!  1000's of trailers were made and are still on the road.  We have fan clubs and t shirts and Aloha trailer get togethers!  Do you realize that Tucker motor company was only around for 2 years and made 48 cars and they have a Wikipedia entry? Why don't you spend some time trying to take down those entries and nominate them for deleting?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumpytrout (talk • contribs) 13:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I understand this process is frustrating but saying "what is wrong with you people?" isn't going win anybody over to your side. I've done what I can and I still plan a trip to the State Library tomorrow to see if they have anything. Also, please read WP:OTHERSTUFF about why Shasta and Tucker don't have any bearing on this discussion. Please click the bluelinks in the various discussions so you can get a better feel for what we are looking for. This is a matter of the FUTON bias, unfortunately. Basically we need multiple not trivial mentions in reliable sources. You can read more about it at WP:CORP. You said you've spoken to the historical society and the CoC. Do you have any citations, that is to say, titles, authors, publishers and dates from newspaper articles and the like? If so, note them on the article's talk page and we can help you add them to the article. I'd like to also request at this time that if this article is deleted (I think time for this debate is running out), that the closer please move it to my userspace. Thanks. Katr67 (talk) 16:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I just get frustrated and clearly I'm out of my league here and don't really understand the process, I've talked to historical society and people that have worked in the factory etc, let me find something good and in written format. I think that there are a lot less notable companies that are on Wikipedia than Aloha and I really think they deserve a good entry and I will do what I can to make that happen.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.134.2 (talk) 16:31, 19 February 2010 (UTC)  (Lumpytrout, not logged in)
 * A good thing to do is to have the article moved to your personal space after this is over. You can then work on it there without worrying about it being deleted, and then move it back to the main Wikipedia space when it's ready. Read WP:RS carefully- that's what the article is lacking. There's no doubt Aloha exists - your personal trailer is proof of that - but existence doesn't immediately make something eligible for having an entry on Wikipedia. BTW, I have the name and number of the guy who owned Aloha. I haven't called him; you might enjoy making the call to get more information, find out if any books were written, etc. tedder (talk) 16:38, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Tedder, I think he already had a version of the article in his userspace. Note I also requested above that the Afd closer move the article to my user space. I want to preserve the talk page! Katr67 (talk) 13:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What?!? really? I would love to make that call! Where did you find the number?  (Lumpytrout, not logged in)
 * Send me an email through Wikipedia's email funciton, I'll pass the information on. I figured you'd be much more interested than me :-) tedder (talk) 17:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * is this one of those things like when your on the first day of a job they tell you to go look for a tool that does not exist just so they can laugh at you when you go look for it? What is the Wikipedia email function?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumpytrout (talk • contribs) 03:42, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The mythical left-handed metric crescent wrench? No, here it is: Special:EmailUser/Tedder. tedder (talk) 05:47, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought it was a left-handed bat stretcher. Katr67 (talk) 13:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.