Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alois and Josephine Kreiner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Anyone desirous of retrieving the content to draft a better article can file a request at WP:REFUND as usual. Stifle (talk) 16:08, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Alois and Josephine Kreiner

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PRODded on the grounds that I was unable to find coverage of their work, and challenged the PROD so we're here for discussion. I looked at the sourcing available and present in the German article, but it's extremely limited in terms of reliable sourcing. The books, which are no doubt reliable, are passing mentions, but the web sites which are longer form have questionable editorial oversight, with the obvious exception of Yad Vashem. Their being declared Righteous by Yad Vashem doesn't appear significant either. Happy to be proven wrong as I think all of those who rescued others during the Holocaust should be remembered, but I'm not sure notability is here on this one. Star  Mississippi  15:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 15:48, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Star   Mississippi  15:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  Star   Mississippi  15:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions.  Star   Mississippi  15:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - see Lexikon der Gerechten unter den Völkern: Deutsche und Österreicher, Vol. 1 p. 322 or other sources in the G-books result. The article needs expansion and improvements but in my opinion it is acceptable as it stands now. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 12:40, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – AssumeGoodWraith  (talk | contribs) 11:09, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Draftify the article is in an unacceptable state so should not be in the mainspace right now; however, if there are editors dedicated to improving it, there should be a draft for them. – DarkGlow • 18:20, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment -- I do not think that hiding Jews from the Nazi holocaust necessarily makes a person notable, without anything else. It was certainly bold and praiseworthy, but not necessarily notable.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Draftify or Delete The article has no references, and the links to G-Books are either short mentions or just the names (or just one name) in a list. Lamona (talk) 20:29, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Draftify or delete per nom. Headphase (talk) 21:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.