Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alonso del Portillo-Marcano


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. To Callelinea- Bring the article to deletion review after you find references in your trip to Cuba (but even then, the subject might not have sufficient notability). Sr13 03:35, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Alonso del Portillo-Marcano

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Non-notable person related to notable people. Corvus cornix 23:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Info appears sourced, but article asserts no actual notability aside from relation to marginally notable people. --Daniel J. Leivick 23:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep, one of the most prominant Abogado-Notarios in Cuba. In addition to being a businessman. Like I stated in the AfD of Vinagre Portillo, something fishy is up.. I am going to Cuba to get moe info and I find this whole set of AfD very insulting.  I have created almost 100 articles on Cuban persons and things and all of a sudden groups of them are being broght up for AfD's when there are sources and the persons are notable.Callelinea 03:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, Once again, I see a well-sourced geneology, but no notability. Yes, he was a lawyer for 40 years, but please let's not put every lawyer in Wiki.  Being a lawyer does not equal being notable.74.242.184.198 04:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: interesting that the only contribution 74.242.184.198 has done is to vote on my six articles up for AfD.. Like I have stated something fishy is going on.Callelinea 04:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:BIO. No clear claim to notability. I don't think this series of AfD's should be taken as insulting; it's just that a large number of articles seem to have been created about members of an extended family, and each of them should be considered on his or her own for notability. --Metropolitan90 06:53, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, a prominent lawyer but accomplishment is not notability. --Dhartung | Talk 10:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That is why I am going to Cuba in August to get more info on the subjects.Callelinea 12:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


 * delete, this appears to be part of a vanity series based on personal genealogy rather than notability. Abtract 13:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * delete, does not meet the guidelines for notability. ++Arx Fortis 14:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - non-notable. If this guy has a notable descendent, then consider merging with that person's article. Rklawton 14:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Agree with Rklawton. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Agree per nomination reasons.--Dali-Llama 16:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Non-noteworthy. Nightscream 16:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: more info and references added. Callelinea 20:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * INFO SENT TO ME regarding the term ABOGADO-NOTARIO, An "abogado" is simply an attorney, someone licensed to practice law. A "notario" is a notary - but this is much different than from what a notary in the US is. In civil law countries (which Cuba was before the revolution, and which it remains in many respects today), a notary is somebody who tends to do what in the US is known as transactional work (drafting contracts, wills organizing real estate transactions, etc., and also doing public records type work and authenticating documents). It is a lucrative job to have - it generally takes additional study beyond what is merely required to practice law. I don't know if they limited how many notaries there could be at one time in Cuba (in France, for example, there are only so many notary positions allowed.)I hope this information was helpful and I wish you the best of luck in your research. takethemud 02:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC).  There were less Abogado-Notarios in Cuba (all this is before the 1959 Cuban Revolution) then there were Judges. It was a highly specialied field that very few attorneys were able do.  Perhaps that can assist some of you in seeing that in the legal field in Cuba anyone who was able to attain the position was very Notable and influential. Their offices would be the equivalent to the Clerk of the Court would be. They would store a copy of all legal transactions in the City.  All deeds, all mortgages, all bank loans had be be filed in their offices. Callelinea 20:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - If what this article says is true, this individual was politically in active in pre-Batista & pre-Castro Cuba. Perhaps as more sources are found, info could be incorporated into this article. if nothing else, perhaps there should be an article about pre-Castro or pre-Batista Cuban politicians. takethemud 19:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable lawyer related to notable persons. Bigdaddy1981 23:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cuba-related deletions.   -- Callelinea 14:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


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