Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alpha Theta Beta


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 04:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Alpha Theta Beta

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Non-notable local sorority and has no independent sources (apart from a reference to a charity which does not discuss the sorority in question). Had redirected it to parent university but article creator reverted redirection. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:11, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Redirect was reverted because the university has no mention of the sorority whatsoever. The Sorority is the foundation of greek life at the university and has a rich history. There are other local organizations listed in the fraternities and sororities list with even more vague pages than this one. I am a college student writing this article so it is challenging to find sources but they exist, and the page was deleted mere hours after creation even though I had plans of working on it further. (JillianLaManna (talk) 02:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC))


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 00:48, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fraternities and sororities-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 00:48, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete fails GNG and ORGDEPTH MarginalCost (talk) 00:51, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Non notable article Thegooduser   Let's Chat   02:41, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete breach of WP:GNG, WP:OTHER, also potential COI issues (though a notification has now been made on userpage, and the article isn't wildly promotional).


 * Comment - - Hi, a couple of comments on your initial response - while you are no doubt correct that there are other, worse, frat/sorority pages, WP:OTHER means that their lack of quality doesn't mean your's get in - it's irritating, but otherwise we'd have to delete in a very straight order. Regarding deletion - if you want you can create things in your sandbox (button at top-right), if you haven't already made one. Then you can make it passable before submitting. There are a couple of sources that mention ATB, but I think they might not be the sorority, and in any case are on student newspapers, which won't be considered reliable. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Searching for sources...
 * As a general reminder, sources don't *have* to be online, it would be entirely possible to keep the article based on one article in Newsday or the Long Island press from something like the 50th anniversary celebration.Naraht (talk) 19:33, 19 April 2018 (UTC)


 * https://longislandreport.org/special-projects/happy-birthday-hofstras-alpha-theta-beta-turns-75/12508 (But I think the LIR is related to Hofstra)
 * http://thetatau.org/Websites/thetatauhq/images/Gear_Issues/GearS12web_final.pdf definitely a secondary source.
 * Mentioned as a local in the list of Fraternities/Sororities at Hofstra in Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities (1977)
 * Went looking through New York State Historical Newspapers, found 7 mentions, but most appear to simply note it as a Hofstra Sorority. http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/search/pages/results/?SearchType=phrase&from_year=1725&to_year=2016&ortext=&andtext=&phrasetext=Alpha+Theta+Beta&proxtext=&proxdistance=&dateFilterType=range&date1=01%2F01%2F1725&date2=12%2F31%2F2016&rows=20&searchType=advanced Naraht (talk) 21:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 21 hits at the Brooklyn Newsstand, but I'm not sure any are enough to hang an article on Naraht (talk) 04:59, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - I can't find sufficient media coverage for this to pass WP:GNG. Because it's the only chapter, there's not going to be much media interest and corresponding coverage outside the Hofstra Community and maybe local Long Island area. TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  17:21, 26 April 2018 (UTC)


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