Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alpina snowmobile


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The result was   merge to snowmobile.  MBisanz  talk 01:45, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Alpina snowmobile

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Wholly unreferenced article, fails WP:GNG FunkyCanute (talk) 19:53, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:54, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:54, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. We generally presume that vehicles are notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:57, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. The Notability (vehicles) essay says that vehicle types (this is one of them) are generally notable, but only if verifiable through reliable sources. The essay also notes that it "does not replace the WP:N requirement for significant coverage in secondary sources". Even if general practice is to presume notability for vehicles like these, I think the utter lack of coverage in independent sources seriously weakens the argument for this one. I did a search in news and on the web and found nothing except for the company's website and a U.S. distributor. These are not independent and are unreliable for our purposes here. But I would argue that this does not even fall under the aforementioned guidelines/essay, because Alpina snowmobile is actually a company called Alpina Snowmobiles, according to its own website. The Alpina Sherpa would be a vehicle type, but Alpina Snowmobiles is a company. And as a company, it does not meet WP:CORPDEPTH, as there is apparently no coverage in reliable sources. I'm open to the possibility that there are Italian or offline sources, but unless those can be found, I think the correct course is delete. --Batard0 (talk) 15:35, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:31, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 14:15, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cheers, Riley   Huntley  02:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Wikipedia's policies say that articles of this kind are generally notable, seems to be a notable thing as well by a Google search. TBrandley 03:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - this is definitely not an article about a vehicle type, but about a vehicle manufacturer instead. At the very least, the article needs renaming to Alpina Snowmobiles if it is kept. I'm struggling to find sources that aren't primary sources or pure PR for this company. Lukeno94 (talk) 12:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge with the article snowmobile; there is a an article on snowmobiles in general in Wikipedia, so the article could be merged with that one. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:48, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete because there are several inaccuracies and possible copyright violations in the article, I am the original author.HJRoberts —Preceding undated comment added 15:45, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
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