Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alsek Air Service (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete both Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Alsek Air Service
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Another tiny local Alaska village airline with no notability. What appear to be solid sources such as the Washington Post mention the existence of this airline but do not have even a single word of content beyond verifying its existence. Essential Air Service contracts do not confer automatic notability either, there are hundreds of such contracts in Alaska because there are hundreds of remote settlements off the road system. This is an "air taxi/flightseeing" operation, it does not even appear to operate scheduled flights. Previous AFD was argued into a "no consensus" result by users who were making up new notability criteria on the spot. As a result of that and other discussions a new guideline, or lack thereof, was established at WikiProject Airlines/Notability. WP:CORP and WP:N are therefore the relevant guides, and this fails them both, all coverage is of a trivial or directory-style nature. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm also nominating for the exact same reasons. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions.  —Beeblebrox (talk) 22:20, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  —Beeblebrox (talk) 22:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both - Neither company is operating airliners, they are using GA aircraft. No doubt they are performing useful service in Alaska, but neither is notable enough to sustain an article. Mjroots (talk) 06:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete All - Lacks coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. I note that int he prior AFD, much of those advocating keep assert inherent noability for airlines.  I see no policy or guideline that indicate that airlines are inherently notable, especially small air services such as these. -- Whpq (talk) 16:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete 40-Mile Air, Neutral on Alsek Air Service. 40MA makes no assertion of notability and appears to be just like the multitude of other Alaskan charter air services - important to the community but "little airplanes on the tarmac, and they all look just the same". AAS, on the other hand, appears to have been a scheduled carrier. I'd like to see more, and more definitive refs to !vote "keep", but the scheduling, and DOT route assignment (surely something that doesn't happen too often?) make me hesitate on the call to "delete". I might note that the type of aircraft operate shouldn't have any bearing on the notability of the airline, IMHO. - The Bushranger One ping only 10:23, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment' - Actually, the DOT route assignment happens quite often. They were contracted to provide Essential Air Service, and if you check Essential Air Service, you will see that this is something that is common. -- Whpq (talk) 12:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * "type of aircraft operate shouldn't have any bearing on the notability of the airline" I agree with that, but I fail to see how scheduling has any bearing on it either. There is no policy or guideline that supports such an idea. In any event I looked at their website, and there are no schedules posted there. Essential air service mainly involves delivering the mail. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:18, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.