Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alt-N Technologies


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The result was   delete. Unanimous Wily D 06:53, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Alt-N Technologies

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Non-notable company, nearly all of the current references are primary or insufficient. Nearly all of the results that Google News found are press releases with two non-English links, but they (the non-English links) appear to be insufficient. Unfortunately, Google News archives also provided press releases. The best source I have found is this D Magazine article, mentioning information that is currently displayed, the 1996 establishment, 2007 award, and something new, "Alt-N’s server is now the fifth most-used in the world" which may be notable, but this appears to be the only useful source. Google Books found one small mention here and two mentions through another book here. A possibility is redirecting the article to their product, MDaemon.

However, Google News results for MDaemon also [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=MDaemon&oq=MDaemon&gs_l=news-cc.3...910.910.0.1002.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.1. show] press releases. Google News archives for the product revealed one useful source here and the other results are non-English so I wouldn't know how useful those are. Although it appeared that MDaemon was a popular product, I have found more press releases than useful sources so both Alt-N and MDaemon may be non-notable. Any thoughts? SwisterTwister  talk  04:34, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * I just tried a google search using "MDaemon review" and a variety of non press release articles came up. A glanced at articles from BerryReview.com, ZDNet.com, ServerWatch.com, and messagingnews.com. I didn't look past the first page of results. The company used to be a subsidiary of Research in Motion, and the article used to redirect to the RIM page with a section about it, so that in itself seems fairly notable. -Dwimble (talk) 16:08, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete. There aren't enough sources to even write a proper history of the company. The products, obscure as they are, have their own pages. I've nominated RelayFax for deletion as well, by the way. MDaemon looks like it ekes by the notability guideline. Most reviews are ancient though; and it looks like the company which sold it initially was called http://deerfield.com. Tijfo098 (talk) 09:53, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I did another quick search and found a few sources about the founder and a video interview specifically about MDaemon. They also discuss the company somewhat. Again, I didn't try to go past the first or second page of the search results...I assume there would be more after a more thorough search: D Magazine, InfoWorld, and World Business Review. -Dwimble (talk) 20:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you check out World Business Review? Tijfo098 (talk) 17:52, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Their Alt-N Technologies name appears in 200+ news articles, a first one being Dallas Morning News May 13, 1999, where Alt-N Technologies either won or donated $25,000 towards being "a business that demonstrates outstanding leadership in conservation." Their October 1999 move to Arlington, Texas was covered in the news. Between 1999 and 2009, it's mostly press releases. Network World March 9, 2009 might not be a press release. Their October 2012 move of their headquarters was mentioned in Fort Worth Star-Telegram October 15, 2012. The topic does not meet WP:GNG. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:30, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right about the Network World (March 2009) article. But it's yet another review of their main product, MDaemon (I've added it there.) The main problem here is that this company is basically a one-trick pony as far as WP:Notable products go. Without substantive independent coverage about the company itself, it's hard to justify two wiki pages. Tijfo098 (talk) 15:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
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