Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alt.games.final-fantasy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 06:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Alt.games.final-fantasy

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This Usenet group may have been borderline notable at some point in the past but it has few (if any) verifiable sources reporting on its notability (WP:OR, much?). The article itself seems to talk about completely unsourceable information and I don't think an article on Wikipedia is appropriate for the topic. Axem Titanium 23:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * delete Newsgroups are not inherently notable. Artw 23:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete to take the above one step forward, newsgroups are virtually never notable. And nothing in the article suggests this particular one is some great exception. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  18:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment As someone who used to be a large participent of the group, I'll refrain from placing my !vote. I just wonder when the criteria for a notable newsgroup would be -- and if you think about it, are they any less notable than certain web forums? I wonder. Because usenet used to be what forums now act as, so I wonder if it's simply a matter of the fact there was, I guess you could say, no real documenting of them back then. Maybe someone ought to create a Usenet History Wiki....♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 18:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Although newsgroups are not part of the web, for our purposes their articles should at a minimum meet the WP:WEB standards, in particular being verifiable using reliable sources. Note also our AfD precedents page, which states in part, "Communities, message boards and blogs are generally not notable".  You are correct in that many parallels exist between newsgroups and web forums... most web forum articles are deleted too. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  18:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Newsgroup does not appear to be notable. Hello32020 21:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete There are some notable newsgroups, but this one isn't particularly so. (And I say this as a former regular, from the days when it was actually on-topic...)  Very much doubt there are any reliable secondary sources that mention it. Shimeru 05:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


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