Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alternate truck routes in Pennsylvania


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The result was merge to the specific parent articles, then redirect to Pennsylvania State Route System. Kurykh (talk) 04:43, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Alternate truck routes in Pennsylvania

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Declined PROD. We do not need a list covering these alternate truck routes, details about each route can be covered in the article about the relevant main route. Editor who declined PROD noted we should preserve the information by merging it into the individual route articles, but not really necessary as most of the information in this article seems to be copy and pasted from the individual route articles.  Dough   4872   21:34, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge to the specific articles. --Rschen7754 00:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Nomination and one "Merge" vote don't give any valid reason to delete this.  The information is arrayed in a list, which provides an overall perspective about alternate truck routes.  Who knew they existed, that they are systematic, that they relate to weight limits, all that?  You could take any list and say merge all of its elements to other things.  Why do that, though?  Putting the information together is fundamentally different, and makes sense to do. -- do  ncr  am  16:00, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Is it notable enough for its own article? --Rschen7754 19:11, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say so. These "alternate truck" routes are just a fancy way of signing truck routes, and generally we don't do special route lists grouped by type within a state. We usually cover special routes in a list by route number such as Special routes of U.S. Route 13 or if there are so few of them cover them in a subsection of the main article as is done in U.S. Route 113. In the past few years, Pennsylvania has posted a bunch of truck or alternate truck routes after a ton of bridges had weight limits put on them, the signage practices vary by district with some such as District 6 calling them "alternate truck" routes and others such as District 5 signing them as the more standard "truck" routes. However, I see no need to have an article cherry pick only "alternate truck" routes and feel we do not need a list of all truck routes in Pennsylvania as the individual articles can cover the need. As it stands, most of this article is copy and paste from the coverage of the alternate truck routes that are covered in the individual route articles so there is really no need for it to exist to cover duplicate information.  Dough   4872   00:03, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:40, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep unless Merged into appropriate articles. Some of the information would be appropriately covered in the article on PA's state highway system, while the rest should be in the articles on the respective parent highways. In short, no deletion until all of the mergers have been done, and then for copyright reasons, redirect this page title to the article on the state highway system.  Imzadi 1979  →   03:13, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The individual routes appear to be copy and pasted from the route articles they were in. The article was created in February 2016 while many of the individual routes had the routes added in 2013 or 2014 (such as here). The Purpose and History sections are unsourced speculation about these routes. We can make a mention of the creation of the alternate truck and truck routes in the Pennsylvania State Route System article and redirect this list there in order to keep it for attribution.  Dough   4872   03:38, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I have added a mention of the truck and alternate truck routes to the history of the Pennsylvania State Route System article.  Dough   4872   03:56, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to sub-sections of parent highway articles per WP:NOTDIRECTORY and/or WP:NOTTRAVEL. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:57, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.