Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alternative press (U.S. political right) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. postdlf (talk) 01:09, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Alternative press (U.S. political right)
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This is somewhat of a procedural nomination. It only makes sense to also nominate this article for deletion, because the Alternative press (U.S. political left) has been nominated, and the same rationale applies to this article in entirety as well. It would be unbalanced to discuss one article without this very similar article also being discussed; both have very similar content and formatting. I'm nominating this article for deletion per a very similar rationale in the nomination for the Alternative press (U.S. political left) article (which was devised by User:GiantSnowman). There is change in the prose here, so it's not quoted, but the nomination is virtually identical:

This article is an indiscriminate list which simply seems to advertise/promote the media of a certain political ideology. The list is not supported by reliable sources, and neither is the inclusion/definition of many of the entries as either "alternative" or even "political right" - seems to be original research in that respect. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - See also, the deletion discussion for the very similar article: Articles for deletion/Alternative press (U.S. political left). Northamerica1000(talk) 07:45, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment -, surely it would have been better to wait for the outcome of the 'left wing' AFD to gauge community consensus? GiantSnowman 08:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I felt that it would be more functional and egalitarian for both articles to be discussed simultaneously. Otherwise, the U.S. political right article would essentially be receiving preferential treatment, allowed a "free pass" while qualifying for deletion in the exact same manner as the "political left" article. Also, the deletion rationale above applies equally to both articles. Northamerica1000(talk) 09:10, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - per rationale at the related "political left" AFD. GiantSnowman 08:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Better done through categories. Sourcing a list like this will be a problem (who labels them "alternative"?), as will indiscriminate list. Rather should be "Top alternative papers" by some criteria like circulation number, or if it meets a threshold of being labeled alternative by at least 4 reliable sources, something such as that. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 14:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have less of a problem with this one than I do with Alternative press (U.S. political left) since it makes no attempt to include the thousands of right publications from the past. Current publications, blue links, makes for a manageable size and useful navigational function. I do agree with Green C. above that the primary problem is a inability of defining "alternative." The secondary problem is definition of what constitutes "right." Is this insurmountable or just an editing matter? Of that I'm not sure... Carrite (talk) 15:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Conservatism-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - unmanageable list with unclear criteria that will likely be disruptively edit-warred over if someone with a strong POV gets their hands on it. Ansh666 19:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
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