Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alternative versions of Venom


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The result was redirect to Venom (Marvel Comics character). Tone 13:09, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Alternative versions of Venom

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Given that Articles for deletion/Alternative versions of Iron Man was just closed as redirect and Articles for deletion/Alternative versions of Black Canary as outright delete, can anyone figure out if there is anything to rescue in this content fork/mutated disambig/list/whatever the hell those 'alternate version' articles are? As usual, content is 95% plot and 5% appearances, sourced in 99% to PRIMARY sources. Oh and just in case "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep per WP:NOTNOTABLE - A better question would be why you are assuming that every "Alternate version" article you come across is automatically not notable by definition. Comic book characters usually go through multiple iterations, so "Other versions" sections are standard. Sometimes when the topic cannot be feasibly covered in the main article because of length (especially with more popular or prolific characters), it is split into a separate article similar to the "In other media" sections. See Joker in other media, for example.
 * Now, you could make a case that specific Alternate Versions articles are not notable, either because the content can be reasonably condensed into the main article or because most of the examples are incredibly minor, one-off appearances, or lack coverage. But that's not what you and TTN are doing.
 * By your own admission, you are indiscriminately nominating every Alternate Versions article you come across, so most of these are going to have to be rediscussed at some point anyway. For that reason, I'm going to have to vote Keep until deletion procedure is properly followed. In fact, at least of one of them (Alternate versions of Batman) actually does pass WP:GNG.  Dark knight  2149  04:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Some of them are indeed notable. Superman, Batman, Robin, Wolverine and Spider-Man for example. Especially Spider-Man. We have a film to prove that. Jhenderson  7 7 7  13:05, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: Just like Spider-Verse, there was a Venomverse which went through significant coverage of the crossover storyline. So I feel this one is fine to stay.  Jhenderson  7 7 7  11:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge a basic summary to Venom (Marvel Comics character). BOZ (talk) 12:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * As long as Alternative versions of Spider-Man is deemed to stay notable. That’s all that mainly matters to me. Some alternative versions have significant characters that redirect to alternative versions like in that article. So be weary. Jhenderson  7 7 7  13:05, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge as mostly plot summary that could still be preserved. Archrogue (talk) 19:55, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see how any of this is preservable, as it's WP:ALLPLOT. However, if there is usable information in the article then Merge to Venom's main article.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is a pure plot summary containment article lacking any real world information from reliable sources. It is not a valid article split because plot is condensed if it's too large, not split out. List of Venom titles is adequate if you want to link to the various interpretations, assuming each interpretation's series is notable enough for an article. TTN (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - nothing of value worth keeping Spiderone  10:11, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.