Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alton More


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The result was delete.  DGG ( talk ) 10:29, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Alton More

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Alton More was a soldier in E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) during World War II; his rank (private) and lack of awards leave him short of notability under WP:SOLDIER. Post-war, he worked in sales and died in an automobile accident in 1958. He supposedly kept two photograph albums belonging to Adolf Hitler which he found at Hitler's Eagle's Nest. None of the accounts describe the albums in any detail and, if they exist, their whereabouts are unknown. More does not qualify for a page as having significant coverage. A former French soldier also had photo albums from the Berghof and said the French were there well before the Americans and had taken photo albums. Georgia Army Vet Contribs  Talk  19:41, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  Georgia Army Vet  Contribs  Talk  19:42, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete I have to admit I have serious concerns when articles on real people are put in characters categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:53, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete How many more of these are there?  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  23:19, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable enough to have his own article. Have to agree that it does not qualify for a page, as there is not enough significant coverage. Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 21:23, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - The article is solely referenced to his own reminiscences. Fails WP:GNG as there do not seem to be reliable outside sources supplying notability. If he really found such photo albums, why have they not surfaced since? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:30, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - I am updating the article based on a dozen or so articles discussing or about More found in local newspapers on newspapers.com. I'll be finished with these edits in a couple hours. I don't know much about the photo album, but his life seemed to actually be relatively well covered in those newspaper articles, and thus passes WP:V much more strongly than many other members of Company E. This coverage extends to some of his activities during the war, reducing concerns about WP:NPOV that arise when only BoB-universe sources are used for these articles. As for WP:NOR, I don't consider it OR to use newspapers to outline a persons biography when they are clearly covering the same person as in this case. As for notability, he was a corporal in the national guard, but probably isn't covered under NMILITARY unless the photo album story is true and somehow more important than current coverage suggests (note that currently there is no coverage independent of the BoB-verse). As for GNG, I think local newspapers can be used so I would suggest he passes. I recognize that if someone holds a standard that non-local sources are key for content to be encyclopedic, this is a borderline case as the only non-local source currently used (including what I'm currently adding) is a popular microhistory of sometimes questionable accuracy. Smmurphy(Talk) 16:16, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Linguist un Eins uno 23:28, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- This is a story that should not be lost to posterity. Having said that, a guy who was probably a horse-riding charmer and and a favorite of the local paper doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. A million grandads have these stories, most not as colorful as this one. There is not a shred of proof that he ever had Hitler's photo album, and I'm not sure his theft of it is notable in itself. This business that human interest stories in the local paper constitutes notability is an abuse of the guideline. Rhadow (talk) 00:52, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete - per nom and Rhadow. If More's association with Easy Company can be verified, he may have a place in that article. But the article is unable to stand on its own. Operator873 CONNECT 03:23, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


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