Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amén


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. JForget 00:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Amén

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Previously CSD'd twice. Not notable. Refs show either passing mention in relation to be lead in band for Aerosmith concert or do not mention the band at all. Unable to find any indication that the band meets criteria of WP:BAND. GregJackP (talk) 00:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC) Delete, per nom. - Reconsider !  02:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Peru-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, no evidence of notability, re-created after speedy by the same WP:SPA. Guy (Help!) 10:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete -- what refs? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:09, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Who can help me with the article? I gave my best to better it !!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.226.11.90 (talk) 12:26, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * improve? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:28, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi can you help me please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunlight14 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think now the policy is fulfilled! Is it not? : ( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunlight14 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Note - The only claim to notability in my opinion is winning "the APDAYC award" which an editor has suggested is like a Peruvian Grammy. I haven't been able to determine if that's true yet as the organization doesn't have great documentation.  I'll continue looking but I'll be !voting delete if I can't find anything.  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 15:45, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm going to continue searching but these 3 articles are the only hits that come up in a Google News or New Archive search when looking for their association with the APDAYC. I've had Google translate them and you can clearly see that their only mention in the article is when they're playing at a concert put on by the APDAYC.  For anyone unaware, the APDAYC is the Peruvian equivalent of the American Federation of Musicians.  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 15:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've given up on finding a reference to show that they've won anything from the APDAYC. I've moved on to charts.  Apparently Peruvian music charts aren't well documented online but this is my best lead so far.  Whether or not it goes back to the 90s is questionable.  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 16:04, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * An IP user has added 3 more links. One is the link that I mentioned above that is significant coverage.  Another doesn't mention Amen from what I can see (may be used as a reference to show that the APDAYC gives out awards).  The last is a mention that the band will be playing at a concert.  None of the new references have changed my !vote as there is no new article that shows significant coverage (still only one).  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 23:42, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Delete - Fails WP:N and WP:BAND. I can find no verification of their winning an award whose ability to bestow notability is questionable. With the links provided by a few Spanish speaking editors, I can only find one article that provides significant coverage of the band (see here). I wouldn't be surprised if there is more coverage that simply isn't online but at this point, that can't be verified by information I've found or information provided to me by other editors. Ol Yeller '''Talktome 16:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Delete for all stated reasons. No evidence of notability at all and all sources offered are unreliable. magnius (talk) 17:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Comment THANK YOU! I put some new and better links in English ... --Sunlight14 (talk) 21:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Comment Who can help cleanup the style ???--84.226.241.93 (talk) 17:15, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment Thanks for putting the references! Like this you can see that the band is notable! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.226.241.93 (talk) 23:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Really depends on whether the references are considered reliable. magnius (talk) 09:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course: one reference is from Terra Peruand Terra networks is a famous network ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.167.24.44 (talk) 11:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment I think now the article is verifiable. --62.167.24.44 (talk) 09:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak delete: unfortunately one reliable source (the terra networks one mentioned above) is not enough to confer notability per WP:GNG or WP:BAND. Both guidelines require multiple reliable sources. --JD554 (talk) 12:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment Terra was only an example!! There are more enlaces which are reliable sources as you can see!! --89.217.203.15 (talk) 15:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

An other example is www.peru.com there a lot of links from Amen       --89.217.203.15 (talk) 16:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Still delete At this stage I still have to say that it struggles to ascertain notability. The sites and links offered are of dubious reliability. magnius (talk) 16:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Why?
Why you think you have the right to say that the links are dubious ?? whit which argument ??? Terra Peru and www.peru.com are the most important networks in Peru !!! --89.217.203.15 (talk) 16:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC) and also: Magnius:I saw that You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.217.203.15 (talk) 17:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Link
A new link:    --Needsexperts (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment An other reliable page is el comercio Its a page from a newspaper! --89.217.203.15 (talk) 17:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment In google and youtube you can find really a lot of links of Amen and Marcello Motta! --89.217.203.15 (talk) 17:41, 4 June 2010 (UTC) Please try to google it!!
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