Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amalia Marquez


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The result was   delete. Mojo Hand (talk) 02:22, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Amalia Marquez

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Unreferenced biography article of a possibly living person. PROD was removed without comment by an anonymous editor. The article is not so much about Marquez as a WP:COATRACK concerning Carlos Castaneda, as a quick read will demonstrate.

Note that while the current version of the article is unreferenced, this version did contain some references. Of these, we have what appear to be non-WP:RS sites "The Charley Project" and "Sustained Action", a couple of primary sources, a dead link from "Life Positive", an article from the "Pahrump Valley Times" that doesn't mention the subject, and a single source in Salon that mentions Marquez briefly, but which is not substantially about her. I was not able to find any better sources on Marquez, either under that name or her alias "Talia Bey".

I don't doubt that her disappearance is distressing for her family, but Wikipedia is not a missing persons site and we shouldn't be hosting thinly veiled attack articles like this, especially under the name of a potentially living person. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 18:11, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete Not notable due to lack of sources; the only real source, the Salon article, mentions her along with the other two "witches" who also disappeared shortly after Castaneda's death, but it's not enough to establish her notability. However, I don't agree that the page is a "thinly veiled attack article". I would encourage the nominator to look at the articles about the other two women, Florinda Donner and Taisha Abelar, to see if they qualify for inclusion here. --MelanieN (talk) 20:23, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Reply, perhaps it's just me then, but there seems to be a clear implication in the article that Cleargreen is somehow involved in Marquez's disappearance. As you've noted, even with that aside the article still needs to be deleted.  I'll review those other two articles, they don't seem as prejudicial to me after a quick skim through, but if this ends with a "Delete" outcome I'll probably seriously consider nominating those as well.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:11, 20 November 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete Not notable; unreliable sources (now-deleted ), including the referenced Salon article, which uses the same now-deleted references as sources - a double whammy, if you please.

NB To call the women concerned "witches" is a loaded phrase, as is "..who also disappeared.." They haven't "disappeared": they've been forced to live incognito since 1998, due to the fact that they were being harassed - and still are. 78.147.177.20 (talk) 00:26, 20 November 2014 (UTC) — 78.147.177.20 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


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