Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amanda Rammell


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Miss Idaho USA. She is already mentioned at the Miss Idaho page so a redirect is appropriate. If the current beauty pageant discussion results in a "keep" outcome for this person, the redirect can be expanded back into an article. MelanieN (talk) 00:54, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Amanda Rammell

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Rammell is really only noted for winning the Miss Idaho USA title, and that is one event notability. Her refusing to be photographed with Idaho's governor because he ordered the killing of her family elk herd is just not a notable enough incident to raise her to the level of notability. John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:36, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2016 August 12.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 16:57, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:30, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:30, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Idaho-related deletion discussions. North America1000 16:30, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Miss Idaho USA as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America1000 16:31, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ONEEVENT and non-notable one at that, since there's no stand-alone article on the event for the year that she competed in. I do not see substantial coverage, even taking the trivial controversy into account. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:21, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. Discussion about notability guidelines has already started on the Talk page for the Beauty Pageant project.  No harm will be done by closing this nomination as "keep" and letting the project-level discussion take its course.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 05:07, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 21:23, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: The discussion on pageant winners' notability is taking place here: RFC on creation of consensus standard, with participants variously advocating that (1) state level winners are not presumed notable, (2) state-level winners are not presumed non-notable; or (3) a special guideline is unnecessary, and that GNG should be used. There's an overlap between the these three positions. There aren't really voices for "state-level winners are always presumed notable" so I don't think the outcome of the discussion, if any, would have an impact on this AfD, which is trying to establish whether the subject meets GNG. Thus it may not make sense to suspend the AfD process for this nomination. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:40, 21 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.